Crime (Public Transport)

Oral Answers to Questions — Home Department – in the House of Commons at 2:30 pm on 18 May 2009.

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Photo of Mary Creagh Mary Creagh Labour, Wakefield 2:30, 18 May 2009

What steps she is taking to reduce levels of crime at bus and railway stations.

Photo of Alan Campbell Alan Campbell Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Home Office) (Crime Reduction)

The Government fund schemes such as the secure stations scheme to reduce crime at transport hubs, with extra CCTV cameras, better lighting, and customer help and information points.

Photo of Mary Creagh Mary Creagh Labour, Wakefield

I thank my hon. Friend for that reply. Last October, a 21-year-old woman was assaulted, robbed and raped at Kirkgate train station by a Romanian national, Ali Majlat, who has been given an indeterminate sentence and will serve a minimum of five years. What reassurance can my hon. Friend give my constituents that this evil man will be deported as soon as he leaves prison, with no leave to return? Will my hon. Friend also please knock some heads together at Northern Rail and Network Rail, to ensure that we get a live CCTV monitoring system so that the British Transport police can monitor what is going on at Kirkgate station?

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This man would not have been in this country had we better control over who came into our country.
This is what we get by being a sheep member of the EU.

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Photo of Alan Campbell Alan Campbell Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Home Office) (Crime Reduction)

This was a grave and hideous crime, and my sympathies go to the victim. As my hon. Friend says, the perpetrator is in prison—and I think most people would expect him to serve his sentence in full and then be considered for deportation, which is exactly what is happening. On my hon. Friend's other points, I would be happy to meet her to see what else can be done.

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So, if a rapist is only '....considered for deportation,..' what does it take for a foreign national to warrant definite deportation. If I were the victim of this vile crime, I certainly wouldn't be reassured by the Minister's response.

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Photo of Nicholas Winterton Nicholas Winterton Conservative, Macclesfield

Although the Government gave a very reassuring answer to the original question, does the Minister agree that many railways stations and even bus stations are unmanned at night and that in many cases those stations are very dark—almost like a morgue—and that there is a huge backlog of expenditure required to install the CCTV cameras and lighting that would make those stations much safer, particularly for the young and the elderly who are frightened to use public transport at night?

Photo of Alan Campbell Alan Campbell Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Home Office) (Crime Reduction)

The hon. Gentleman raises an important matter on behalf of his constituents. Policing at stations and, indeed, station security is, of course, the responsibility of the Secretary of State for Transport, but I would be quite happy to raise the hon. Gentleman's point with my colleagues.

Photo of Neil Gerrard Neil Gerrard Labour, Walthamstow

The safer transport team based at Walthamstow Central bus and tube station has had a really good effect on bringing down crime levels in the area, but one issue that does not help to persuade people that this is actually happening is the diversion created in people's minds by the use of section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2006 to stop and search people who have been taking photographs in and around the bus station. Will the Minister look at how that law is operating? We recently had a ludicrous incident when an Austrian tourist who was taking photographs of buses was stopped and searched. That does not help.

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The police irrationally stopping people taking photographs has become a problem throughout the country. I tried raising the problem with my local police authority, without any success as they deemed it an operational matter for the police. (I argued it was a a systemic strategic matter and firmly within their remit) : ...

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Photo of Alan Campbell Alan Campbell Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Home Office) (Crime Reduction)

We are looking at that. My hon. Friend the Minister for Security, Counter-Terrorism, Crime and Policing is in discussions on exactly that issue.

Photo of David Ruffley David Ruffley Shadow Minister (Home Affairs)

We all know that if police officers spend more time on the beat, crime will be cut. Four years ago, the Home Office told us that police officers spent only 19 per cent. of their time on the beat. Can the Minister tell us today what the latest figure is?

Photo of Alan Campbell Alan Campbell Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Home Office) (Crime Reduction)

What we need to be measuring is the length of time that police officers spend on front-line duties, not simply "on the beat". The hon. Gentleman is aware that if police are literally on the beat, they are obviously not involved in front-line policing. As soon as officers undertake some policing, it means they are carrying out front-line duties, which is subject to a different measurement altogether. The figures have been rising in that respect. What we need to do is not just have police officers with more time for front-line police services, but guarantee the number of those officers. Given the funding commitments—or lack of them—from the Conservative party, I am not sure whether police officers will be there to spend time on whatever duties.

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I always though on-the-beat was as front-line a duty as it was possible to be. Aside from this double-talk, the Minister offers no concrete evidence that the "different measure" used to log police officers time is anything more than hot air, and 12 years on the old tactic of attacking what the Tories may, or may not, spend is still employed despite Labour actually being the ones CURRENTLY responsible for the situation as-is.

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