Clause 11 — Matters to be taken into account in connection with carbon budgets

Climate Change Bill [ Lords] (Programme) (No. 2) – in the House of Commons at 7:30 pm on 18th November 2008.

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Lords amendments: 7A and 7B

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Photo of Joan Ruddock Joan Ruddock Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Energy and Climate Change) 7:33 pm, 18th November 2008

I beg to move,

That this House
does not insist on its amendment No.7 and agrees with Lords amendments Nos. 7A and 7B in lieu.

Lords amendments Nos. 7A and 7B in lieu deal with emissions from international aviation and international shipping. Throughout discussions on the issue in this House and in the other place, the Government's consistent position has been that it is vital to put in place strong mechanisms to deal with emissions from international aviation and international shipping, but that finding the right way of deciding on which of those emissions should be allocated as being the UK's responsibility is beyond our reach at the moment. These amendments reflect the view—as expressed by the Chairman of the shadow Committee on Climate Change, Lord Turner of Ecchinswell, in his letter to the Secretary of State—that although the right methodology does not yet exist for including these emissions in the carbon budgets, decisions made by the Committee or the Government in relation to the budgets must take into account projected emissions from international aviation and shipping. On Report in the Commons, the Government accepted an amendment that reflected the Committee's view, but on the basis that we would need to ask parliamentary counsel to advise on the drafting. We propose amendments Nos. 7A and 7B to fulfil this commitment.

Amendment No. 7A would require that both the Government and the Committee take account of projected emissions from international aviation and international shipping in setting, and advising on, carbon budgets, respectively. Amendment No. 7B defines what we have in mind, and also provides that the projections may be estimated using such reasonable methods as the Secretary of State or the Committee considers appropriate.

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Photo of Charles Hendry Charles Hendry Shadow Minister (Energy and Climate Change)

As my party colleagues in the Lords made clear and as my hon. Friend Gregory Barker told the House on Report, we welcome the inclusion of aviation and shipping emissions in the Bill. We recognise the existing difficulties in methodology, emission accounting and international law that still trouble these sectors, but we also recognise that the difficulties are surmountable, and that simply ignoring them was never going to be a solution. We welcome the amendments that their lordships made yesterday evening to Commons amendment No. 7 and consider these changes to be a necessary tidying of the Bill as well as a positive endorsement of issues agreed to and voted on in this House on Report.

Question put and agreed to.

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