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Part of the debate – in the House of Commons at 11:37 am on 15th March 2007.

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Photo of Jack Straw Jack Straw Chair, Modernisation of the House of Commons Committee, Leader of the House of Commons and Lord Privy Seal 11:37 am, 15th March 2007

The honest answer is, with great difficulty. Some of us who have had to deal with similar questions have found the rules in relation to the wearing of overseas decorations quite difficult to comprehend. I assure my hon. Friend that my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister continues to take a close interest in the matter.


Gerald Law
Posted on 16 Mar 2007 3:11 pm (Report this annotation)

Mr Straw is quite correct, and Ms Moffat is to be praised for raising the matter. The entire matter of the acceptance and wearing of genuinely awarded foreign medals is an utter shambles despite decades of tinkering with the system. The time has arrived (21st Century) to do away with the concept of Imperial intervention with this basic fundamental right of British citizens.
Gerald Law

Barry Fleming
Posted on 16 Mar 2007 3:35 pm (Report this annotation)

If the question of Foreign Decorations is not readily understood by the ex-Foreign Secretary who dealt with the PJM request from Malaysia, then that explains why such a stupid and ludicrous recommendation was allowed to go through - and why it needs amending asap. A debate is needed so that MPs can understand what is being perpetrated in their names.

john fenton
Posted on 16 Mar 2007 3:39 pm (Report this annotation)

That the rules governing the acceptance and approval of such medal are, to quote Mr Straw, 'quite difficult to comprehend' is no exaggeration. The rules are totally incomprehensible and their incomphensibility is promulgated and perpetuated by a small group of unelected Civil Servants. This group appear to manipulate their arcane rules purely at their own whim and to suit their own purposes. It is long overdue for such an anachronistic system to be overhauled and brought into line with current reality. I wish Ms Moffat much success in her call for debate on the topic of the Pingat Jasa Malaysia.

'Jock' Fenton

John Cooper
Posted on 16 Mar 2007 4:44 pm (Report this annotation)

Jack Straw refers thus:

"I assure my hon. Friend that my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister continues to take a close interest in the matter"

Really Mr Straw! I didn't think anyone in HMG is really interested in Foreign awards, all they appear to be interested in is obtaining their own medals. HMG has dug a huge hole for themselves with the Pingat Jasa Malaysia saga and has so much egg on their faces that they disgrace themselves.

We lost the Empire years ago unshaackle your own chains and get into the 21st Century, double meddling (medaling) and 5 year rules are from the 19th century, then get real amongst real people, you are so aloof from the real people that we are Poles apart

John Cooper PJM