Orders of the Day — Constitutional Reform Bill [Lords] — 1st Allotted Day – in the House of Commons at 7:30 pm on 31 January 2005.
On a point of order, Mrs. Heal. My hon. and learned Friend Mr. Garnier just said in an extremely brief speech that something was a shame. To quote my favourite entertainer, Stanley Holloway, it is a shame and a sin that this Committee has not had the opportunity to discuss clauses 6 or 7 in the first three hours allowed for the Bill. I realise that you can do nothing about this matter tonight but could you, on behalf of the House, speak to Sir Alan and Mr. Speaker and see whether any representations can be made to those who draw up programmes to ensure that there can be some built-in flexibility, so that when the House is faced with a major constitutional Bill of this nature, it does not end up without any opportunity to discuss significant parts of it?
Further to that point of order, Mrs. Heal, I wish to explain to you that what I thought was a shame was precisely what my hon. Friend has just said. Vast sections of this important Bill will never be discussed by the House. What is the point of the House if it is not allowed to discuss anything that the Government wish to impose on the people of this country?
On a point of order, Mrs. Heal. The role of the Master of the Rolls and the effect of the provisions on his role in the courts of England and Wales has not been mentioned. Perhaps it would be possible for the Minister to consider whether, in commenting on some of the other clauses that deal with judicial matters, he might reflect on the position of the Master of the Rolls.