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Orders of the Day — Identity Cards Bill

Part of the debate – in the House of Commons at 5:08 pm on 20th December 2004.

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Photo of Charles Clarke Charles Clarke Home Secretary 5:08 pm, 20th December 2004

I shall deal with the costs at the appropriate point in my speech, but I hope that it is clear to everyone that fraud in the benefits system and other public services is unacceptable and that we should do whatever we can to deal with it as effectively as possible.


Michael Hambly
Posted on 23 Dec 2004 8:42 pm (Report this annotation)

I note that the previous question was not answered!. What would a cynic read into this I wonder.

Chris Lightfoot
Posted on 28 Dec 2004 5:16 pm (Report this annotation)

Clarke says,
"I hope it is clear to everyone that... we should do whatever we can to deal with [benefit fraud] as effectively as possible."
Well, it's not clear to me that we should do "whatever we can" in this respect. For instance, we could stop benefit fraud completely by abolishing the benefits system. Mr Clarke is, oddly, not proposing to do that. I wonder why not?

chris pounder
Posted on 1 Jan 2005 9:04 pm (Report this annotation)

No costs were provided in the debate except Peter Lilley's intervention re benefit fraud