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The Minister is making a good cut-out-and-keep speech, which will certainly be in my back pocket the next time the Liberals come round in Ceredigion. He knows that the Liberals opposed the Cefn Croes application, which was for the largest wind farm in both England and Wales. He approved it, though not in the democratic way that I would have liked. Nevertheless, the application was approved with my support and against the opposition of Liberal Democrats in Ceredigion.
Will the Minister move on to deal with the serious point at the heart of the debate? He must explain the justification for the #650 million British Energy subsidy, how the money will be returned to the Government and whether further demands from British Energy—