Independent Advocacy Services

New Clause 10 – in the House of Commons at 8:45 pm on 14 February 2001.

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". After section 19 of the 1977 Act there shall be inserted—

19A.—(1) It is the duty of the Secretary of State to arrange, to such extent as he considers necessary to meet all reasonable requirements, for the provision of independent advocacy services.

(2) "Independent advocacy services" are services providing assistance (by way of representation or otherwise) to individuals making or intending to make—

  1. (a) a complaint under a procedure operated by a health service body or independent provider,
  2. (b) a complaint to the Health Service Commissioner for England or the Health Service Commissioner for Wales,
  3. (c) a complaint of a prescribed description which relates to the provision of services as part of the health service and
    1. (i) is made under a procedure of a prescribed description, or
    2. (ii) gives rise, or may give rise, to proceedings of a prescribed description.

(3) In subsection (2)— health service body" mean a body which, under section 2(1) or (2) of the Health Service Commissioners Act 1993, is subject to investigation by the Health Service Commissioner for England c r the Health Service Commissioner for Wales;independent provider" means a person who, under section 2B(1) or (2) of that Act, is subject to such investigation.

(4) The Secretary of State may make such other arrangements as he thinks fit for the provision of assistance to individuals in connection with complaints relating to the provision of services as part of the health service.

(5) In making arrangements under this section the Secretary of State must have regard to the principle that the provision of services under the arrangements should, so far as practicable, be independent of any person who is the subject of a relevant complaint or is involved in investigating or adjudicating on such a complaint.

(6) Before making arrangements under this section in respect of complaints relating to the provision of any services, the Secretary of State shall consult—

  1. (a) any relevant Patients' Council, and
  2. (b) such other persons as he consit ers appropriate.

(7) A Patients' Council is, for the purposes of subsection (6)(a), a relevant Council if the services concerned are ones to which functions of a member Forum of the Council relate.

(8) The Secretary of State may make payments to any person in pursuance of arrangements under this section.".'.—[Mr. Jamieson.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Motion made, and Question put, That the clauses be read a Second time:—

The House divided: Ayes 335, Noes 124.

Division No. 126][9.17 pm
AYES
Adams, Mrs Irene (Paisley N)Berth, Rt Hon A J
Ainger, NickBell, Martin (Tatton)
Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE)Bell, Stuart (Middlesbrough)
Allan, RichardBenn, Hilary (Leeds C)
Allen, GrahamBenn, Rt Hon Tony (Chesterfield)
Anderson, Rt Hon Donald (Swansea E)Bennett, Andrew F
Benton, Joe
Armstrong, Rt Hon Ms HilaryBermingham, Gerald
Ashdown, Rt Hon PaddyBerry, Roger
Ashton, JoeBest, Harold
Atkins, CharlotteBelts, Clive
Austin, JohnBlears, Ms Hazel
Bailey, AdrianBlizzard, Bob
Ballard, JackieBorrow, David
Banks, TonyBradshaw, Ben
Barnes, HarryBrake, Tom
Barron, KevinBrand, Dr Peter
Battle, JohnBreed, Colin
Bayley, HughBrinton, Mrs Helen
Beard, NigelBrown, Russell (Dumfries)
Beckett, Rt Hon Mrs MargaretBrowne, Desmond
Begg, Miss AnneBruce, Malcolm (Gordon)
Buck, Ms KarenGidley, Sandra
Burden, RichardGilroy, Mrs Linda
Burnett, JohnGoggins, Paul
Burstow, PaulGolding, Mrs Llin
Byers, Rt Hon StephenGriffiths, Jane (Reading E)
Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge)Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V)Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Campbell-Savours, DaleGrogan John
Cann, JamieGunnell, John
Caplin, IvorHall, Mike (Weaver Vale)
Caton, MartinHamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE)
Chapman, Ben (Wirral S)Hancock, Mike
Chaytor, DavidHanson, David
Clapham, MichaelHarman, Rt Hon Ms Harriet
Clark, Rt Hon Dr David (S Shields)Harris, Dr Evan
Clark, Paul (Gillingham)Harvey, Nick
Clarke, Eric (Midlothian)Healey, John
Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge)Heath, David (Somerton & Frome)
Clarke, Tony (Northampton S)Henderson, Doug (Newcastle N)
Clelland, DavidHenderson, Ivan (Harwich)
Coaker, VernonHendrick, Mark
Coffey, Ms AnnHepburn, Stephen
Cohen, HarryHeppell, John
Coleman, IainHesford, Stephen
Colman, TonyHewitt, Ms Patricia
Connarty, MichaelHinchliffe, David
Cooper, YvetteHodge, Ms Margaret
Corbett, RobinHope, Phil
Corbyn, JeremyHopkins, Kelvin
Cotter, BrianHowarth, George (Knowsley N)
Cousins, JimHowells, Dr Kim
Cox, TomHoyle, Lindsay
Cranston, RossHughes, Ms Beverley (Stretford)
Crausby, DavidHughes, Kevin (Doncaster N)
Cryer, John (Hornchurch)Hughes, (Southwark N)
Cummings, JohnHumble, Mrs Joan
Cunningham, Jim (Cov"try S)Humble, Mrs Joan
Darling, Rt Hon AlistairHutton, John
Darvill, KeithIddon, Dr Brian
Davey, Edward (Kingston)Illsley, Eric
Davey, Valerie (Bristol W)Jackson, Helen (Hillsborough)
Davidson, IanJamieson, David
Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli)Jenkins, Brian
Davies, Geraint (Croydon C)Johnson, Alan (Hull W & Hassle)
Davis, Rt Hon Terry (B"ham Hodge H)Jones, Mrs Fiona (Newark)
Jones, Helen (Warrington N)
Dawson, HiltonJones, Ms Jenny (Wolverh"ton SW)
Denham, Rt Hon John
Dismore, AndrewJones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C)
Dobbin, JimJones, Dr Lynne (Selly Oak)
Dobson, Rt Hon FrankJones, Martyn (Clwyd S)
Donohoe, Brian HJowell, Rt Hon Ms Tessa
Doran, FrankJoyce, Eric
Dowd, JimKaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
Drew, DavidKeeble, Ms Sally
Dunwoody, Mrs GwynethKeen, Alan (Feltham & Heston)
Eagle, Angela (Wallasey)Keen, Ann (Brentford & Isleworth)
Eagle, Maria (L'pool Garston)Keetch, Paul
Edwards, HuwKemp, Fraser
Efford, CliveKidney, David
Ellman, Mrs LouiseKilfoyle, Peter
Ellman, Mrs LouiseKilfoyle, Peter
Ennis, JeffKing, Andy (Rugby & Kenilworth)
Etherington, Bill
Fisher, MarkKirkwood, Archy
Fitzpatrick, JimKumar, Dr Ashok
Fitzsimons, Mrs LornaLadyman, Dr Stephen
Flint, CarolineLammy, David
Flynn PaulLawrence, Mrs Jackie
Foster, Rt Hon DerekLaxton, Bob
Foulkes, GeorgeLepper, David
Galloway, GeorgeLeslie, Christopher
George, Andrew (St Ives)Levitt, Tom
George, Rt Hon Bruce (Walsall S)Lewis, Ivan (Bury S)
Gerrard, NeilLiddell, Rt Hon Mrs Helen
Gibson, Dr IanLinton, Martin
Livsey, RichardRooker, Rt Hon Jeff
Lock, DavidRooney, Terry
Love, AndrewRoss, Ernie (Dundee W)
McAvoy, ThomasRowlands, Ted
McCabe, SteveRuane, Chris
McCartney, Rt Hon Ian (Makerfield)Ruddock, Joan
Russell, Bob (Colchester)
McDonagh SiobhainRussel1, Ms Christine (Chester)
Macdonald, CalumRyan, Ms Joan
McDonnell, JohnSalter, Martin
McIsaac, ShonaSanders, Adrian
Mackinlay, AndrewSarwar, Mohammad
McNamara, KevinSavidge, Malcolm
McNulty, TonySawford Phil
Mactaggart, FionaSedgemore, Brian
McWalter, TonySheldon, Rt Hon Robert
McWilliam, JohnShipley, Ms Debra
Mahon, Mrs AliceSingh, Marsha
Mallaber, JudySkinner, Dennis
Mandelson, Rt Hon PeterSmith, Rt Hon Andrew (Oxford E)
Marsden, Gordon (Blackpool S)Smith, Miss Geraldine (Morecambe & Lunesdale)
Marsden, Paul (Shrewsbury)Smith, Jacqui (Redditch)
Marshall, David (Shettleston)Smith, John (Glamorgan)
Marshall, Jim (Leicester S)Smith, Sir Robert (W Ab'd'ns)
Martlew, EricSoley, Clive
Meacher, Rt Hon MichaelSouthworth, Ms Helen
Meale, AlanSpellar, John
Merron, GillianSquire, Ms Rachel
Michael, Rt Hon AlunStarkey, Dr Phyllis
Michie, Bill (Shefld Heeley)Steinberg, Gerry
Michie, Mrs Ray (Argyll & Bute)Stewart, Ian (Eccles)
Milburn, Rt Hon AlanStinchcombe, Paul
Miller, AndrewStoate, Dr Howard
Moffatt LauraStrang, Rt Hon Dr Gavin
Moore, MichaelStuart, Ms Gisela
Morgan, Ms Julie (Cardiff N)Stunell, Andrew
Morris, Rt Hon Ms Estelle (B'ham Yardley)Sutcliffe Gerry
Taylor, Rt Hon Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Morris, Rt Hon Sir John (Aberavon)
Taylor, Ms Dari (Stockton S)
Mulllin, ChrisTaylor, David (NW Leics)
Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck)Taylor Rt Hon John D (Strangford)
Murphy, Rt Hon Paul (Torfaen)Temple-Morris, Peter
Naysmith, Dr DougThomas, Gareth R (Harrow W)
Morris, DanTimms, Stephen
Oaten, MarkTipping, Paddy
O'Brien, Bill (Normanton)Todd, Mark
O'Hara, EddieTonge, Dr Jenny
Olner, BillTrickett, Jon
O'Neill, MartinTurner, Dr Desmond (Kemptown)
Öpik, LembitTurner, Dr George (NW Norfolk)
Organ, Mrs DianaTurner, Neil (Wigan)
Pickthall, ColinTwigg, Derek (Halton)
Pike, Peter LTwigg, Stephen (Enfield)
Pond, ChrisTyler, Paul
Pope, GregVis, Dr Rudi
Pound, StephenWalley, Ms Joan
Powell, Sir RaymondWard, Ms Claire
Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E)Wareing, Robert N
Prentice, Gordon (Pendle)Watts, David
Webb, Steve
Primarolo, DawnWhite, Brian
Prosser, GwynWhitehead, Dr Alan
Purchase, KenWicks, Malcolm
Quin, Rt Hon Ms JoyceWilliams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W)
Quinn, Lawrie
Rammell, BillWilliams, Allan W (E Carmarthen)
Raynsford, NickWilliams, Mrs Betty (Conwy)
Reed, Andrew (Loughborough)Willis, Phil
Rendel, DavidWills, Michael
Robertson, John (Glasgow Anniesland)Winnick, David
Winterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C)
Robinson, Geoffrey (Cov'try NW)Woodward, Shaun
Rogers, AllanWoolas, Phil
Wray, JamesTellers for the Ayes:
Wright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth)Mr. Don Touhig and
Wright, Tony (Cannock)Mr. Ian Pearson.
NOES
Ainsworth, Peter (E Surrey)Laing, Mrs Eleanor
Amess, DavidLait, Mrs Jacqui
Arbuthnot, Rt Hon JamesLansley, Andrew
Atkinson, Peter (Hexham)Leigh, Edward
Baldry, TonyLetwin, Oliver
Beggs, RoyLewis, Dr Julian (New Forest E)
Bercow, JohnLidington, David
Beresford, Sir PaulLloyd, Rt Hon Sir Peter (Fareham)
Blunt, CrispinLoughton, Tim
Body, Sir RichardLyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas
Boswell, TimMcCrea, Dr William
Bottomley, Peter (Worthing W)McIntosh, Miss Anne
Bottomley, Rt Hon Mrs VirginiaMaclean, Rt Hon David
Brady, GrahamMcLoughlin, Patrick
Brazier, JulianMalins, Humfrey
Brooke, Rt Hon PeterMates, Michael
Browning, Mrs AngelaMoss, Malcolm
Burns, SimonNicholls, Patrick
Butterfill, JohnNorman, Archie
Cash, WilliamO'Brien, Stephen (Eddisbury)
Chapman, Sir Sydney (Chipping Barnet)Ottaway, Richard
Page, Richard
Chope, ChristopherPickles, Eric
Clark, Dr Michael (Rayleigh)Portillo, Rt Hon Michael
Collins, TimPrior, David
Cormack, Sir PatrickRandall, John
Cran, JamesRedwood, Rt Hon John
Curry, Rt Hon DavidRobertson, Laurence (Tewk'b'ry)
Davies, Quentin (Grantham)Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne)
Davis, Rt Hon David (Haltemprice)St Aubyn, Nick
Day, StephenSayeed, Jonathan
Duncan AlanShephard, Rt Hon Mrs Gillian
Emery, Rt Hon Sir PeterShepherd, Richard
Evans, NiqelSimpson, Keith (Mid-Norfolk)
Fabricant, MichaelSmyth, Rev Martin (Belfast S)
Fallon, MichaelSpelman, Mrs Caroline
Flight, HowardSpring, Richard
Forth, Rt Hon EricStanley, Rt Hon Sir John
Fowler, Rt Hon Sir NormanSteen Anthony
Streeter, Gary
Fox, Dr LiamSwayne, Desmond
Gale, RogerSyms, Robert
Garnier, EdwardTaylor, Ian (Esher & Walton)
Gibb, NickTaylor, John M (Solihull)
Gill, ChristopherTaylor, Sir Teddy
Gillan, Mrs CherylThomas, Simon (Ceredigion)
Gorman, Mrs TeresaTownend, John
Gray, JamesTredinnick, David
Greenway, JohnTrend Michael
Grieve, DominicViggers, Peter
Hamilton, Rt Hon Sir ArchieWalter, Robert
Hammond, PhilipWaterson, Nigel
Hayes, JohnWhitney, Sir Raymond
Heald, OliverWhittingdale, John
Heathcoat-Amory, Rt Hon DavidWiddecombe, Rt Hon Miss Ann
Hogg, Rt Hon DouglasWilkinson, John
Horam, JohnWilletts, David
Howard, Rt Hon MichaelWilshire, David
Howarth, Gerald (Aldershot)Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton)
Hunter, AndrewWinterton, Nicholas (Macclesfield)
Jackson, Robert (Wantage)Yeo, Tim
Jenkin, BernardYoung, Rt Hon Sir George
Johnson Smith, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
Tellers for the Noes:
Key, RobertMr. Peter Luff and
Kirkbride, Miss JulieMr. Geoffrey Clifton-Brown.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Clauses read a Second time, and added to the Bill.

Question Put, That the remaining Government amendments and amendments Nos. 24 to 26 be made:—

The House divied: Ayes 338, Noes 118.

Division No. 127][9.31 pm
AYES
Adams, Mrs Irene (Paisley N)Corbett, Robin
Ainger, NickCorbyn, Jeremy
Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE)Cotter, Brian
Allan, RichardCousins, Jim
Allen, GrahamCox, Tom
Anderson, Rt Hon Donald (Swansea E)Cranston, Ross
Crausby, David
Armstrong, Rt Hon Ms HilaryCryer, John (Hornchurch)
Ashdown, Rt Hon PaddyCummings, John
Ashton, JoeCunningham, Jim (Cov'try S)
Atkins, CharlotteDarling, Rt Hon Alistair
Austin, JohnDarvill, Keith
Bailey, AdrianDavey, Edward (Kingston)
Ballard, JackieDavey, Valerie (Bristol W)
Banks, TonyDavidson, Ian
Barnes, HarryDavies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli)
Battle, JohnDavies, Geraint (Croydon C)
Bayley, HughDavis, Rt Hon Terry (B'ham Hodge H)
Beard, Nigel
Beckett, Rt Hon Mrs MargaretDawson, Hilton
Begg, Miss AnneDenham, Rt Hon John
Beith, Rt Hon A JDismore, Andrew
Bell, Martin (Tatton)Dobbin, Jim
Bell, Stuart (Middlesbrough)Dobson, Rt Hon Frank
Benn, Hilary (Leeds C)Donohoe, Brian H
Bennett, Andrew FDoran, frank
Benton, JoeDowd, Jim
Bermingham, GeraldDrew, David
Berry, RogerDunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth
Best, HaroldEagle, Angela (Wallasey)
Belts, CliveEagle, Maria (L'pool Garston)
Blears, Ms HazelEdwards, Huw
Blizzard, BobEfford, Clive
Borrow, DavidEllman, Mrs Louise
Bradshaw, BenEnnis, Jeff
Brake, TomEtherington, Bill
Brand, Dr PeterFisher, Mark
Breed, ColinFitzpatrick, Jim
Brinton, Mrs HelenFitzsimons, Mrs Lorna
Brown, Russell (Dumfries)Flint, Caroline
Browne, DesmondFlynn, Paul
Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon)Foster, Rt Hon Derek
Buck, Ms KarenFoulkes, George
Burden, RichardGalloway, George
Burgon, ColinGeorge Andrew (St Ives)
Burnett, JohnGeorge Rt Hon Bruce (Walsall S)
Burstow, PaulGerrard, Neil
Byers, Rt Hon StephenGibson, Dr Ian
Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge)Gidley, Sandra
Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V)Gilroy, Mrs Linda
Campbell-Savours, DaleGoggins, Paul
Caplin, IvorGolding, Mrs Llin
Caton, MartinGriffiths, Jane (Reading E)
Cawsey, IanGriffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Chapman, Ben (Wirral S)Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Chaytor, DavidGrocott, Bruce
Clapham, MichaelGrogan, John
Clark, Rt Hon Dr David (S Shields)Gunnell, John
Clark, Paul (Gillingham)Hall, Mike (Weaver Vale)
Clarke, Charles (Norwich S)Hamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE)
Clarke, Eric (Midlothian)Hancock, Mike
Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge)Hanson, David
Clarke, Tony (Northampton S)Herman, Rt Hon Ms Harriet
Clelland, DavidHarris, Dr Evan
Coaker, VernonHarvey, Nick
Coffey, Ms AnnHealey, John
Cohen, HarryHeath, David (Somerton & Frome)
Coleman, IainHenderson, Doug (Newcastle N)
Colman, TonyHenderson, Ivan (Harwich)
Connarty, MichaelHendrick, Mark
Cooper, YvetteHepburn, Stephen
Heppell, JohnMartlew, Eric
Hesford, StephenMeacher, Rt Hon Michael
Hewitt, Ms PatriciaMeale, Alan
Hinchliffe, DavidMerron, Gillian
Hodge, Ms MargaretMichael, Rt Hon Alun
Hope, PhilMichie, Bill (Shefld Heeley)
Hopkins, KelvinMichie, Mrs Ray (Argyll & Bute)
Howarth, George (Knowsley N)Milburn, Rt Hon Alan
Howells, Dr KimMiller, Andrew
Hoyle, LindsayMitchell, Austin
Hughes, Ms Beverley (Stretford)Moffatt, Laura
Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N)Moore, Michael
Hughes, Simon (Southwark N)Morgan, Ms Julie (Cardiff N)
Humble, Mrs JoanMorris, Rt Hon Ms Estelle (B'ham Yardley)
Hutton, John
Iddon, Dr BrianMorris, Fit Hon Sir John (Aberavon)
Illsley, Eric
Jackson, Ms Glenda (Hampstead)Mullin, Chris
Jackson, Helen (Hillsborough)Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck)
Jamieson, DavidMurphy, Rt Hon Paul (Torfaen)
Jenkins, BrianNaysmith, Dr Doug
Johnson, Alan (Hull W & Hessle)Norris, Dan
Jones, Mrs Fiona (Newark)Oaten, Mark
Jones, Helen (Warrington N)O'Brien, Bill (Normanton)
Jones, Ms Jenny (Wolverh"ton SW)O'Hara, Eddie
Olner, Bill
Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C)O'Neill, Martin
Jones, Dr Lynne (Selly Oak)Öpik, Lembit
Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S)Organ, Mrs Diana
Jowell, Rt Hon Ms TessaPickthall, Colin
Joyce, EricPike, Peter L
Kaufman, Rt Hon GeraldPond, Chris
Keeble, Ms SallyPope, Greg
Keen, Alan (Feltham & Heston)Pound, Stephen
Keen, Ann (Brentford & Isleworth)Powell, Sir Raymond
Keetch, PaulPrentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E)
Kemp, FraserPrentice, Gordon (Pendle)
Kidney, DavidPrimarolo, Dawn
Kilfoyle, PeterProsser, Gwyn
King, Andy (Rugby & Kenilworth)Purchase, Ken
Kirkwood, ArchyQuin, Rt Hon Ms Joyce
Kumar, Dr AshokQuinn, Lawrie
Ladyman, Dr StephenRammell, Bill
Lammy, DavidRaynsford, Nick
Lawrence, Mrs JackieReed, Andrew (Loughborough)
Laxton, BobRendel, David
Lepper, DavidRobertson, John (Glasgow Anniesland)
Leslie, Christopher
Levitt, TomRobinson, Geoffrey (Cov'try NW)
Lewis, Ivan (Bury S)Rogers, Allan
Liddell, Rt Hon Mrs HelenRooker, Rt Hon Jeff
Linton, MartinRooney, Terry
Livsey, RichardRoss, Ernie (Dundee W)
Lock, DavidRowlands, Ted
Love, AndrewRuane, Chris
McAvoy, ThomasRuddock, Joan
McCabe, SteveRussell, Bob (Colchester)
McCartney, Rt Hon Ian (Makerfield)Russell, Ms Christine (Chester)
Ryan, Ms Joan
McDonagh, SiobhainSalter, Martin
Macdonald, CalumSanders, Adrian
McDonnell, JohnSarwar, Mohammad
McIsaac, ShonaSavidge, Malcolm
Mackinlay, AndrewSawford, Phil
McNamara, KevinSedgemore, Brian
McNulty, TonySheldon, Rt Hon Robert
Mactaggart, FionaShipley, Ms Debra
McWalter, TonySingh, Marsha
McWilliam, JohnSkinner, Dennis
Mahon, Mrs AliceSmith, Rt Hon Andrew (Oxford E)
Mallaber, JudySmith, Miss Geraldine (Morecambe & Lunesdale)
Mandelson, Rt Hon Peter
Marsden, Gordon (Blackpool S)Smith, Jacqui (Redditch)
Marsden, Paul (Shrewsbury)Smith, John (Glamorgan)
Marshall, David (Shettleston)Smith, Sir Robert (W Ab'd'ns)
Marshall, Jim (Leicester S)Soley, Clive
Southworth, Ms HelenTwigg, Derek (Halton)
Spellar, JohnTwigg, Stephen (Enfield)
Squire, Ms RachelTyler, Paul
Starkey, Dr PhyllisVis, Dr Rudi
Steinberg, GerryWalley, Ms Joan
Stewart, Ian (Eccles)Ward, Ms Claire
Stinchcombe, PaulWareing, Robert N
Stoate, Dr HowardWatts, David
Strang, Rt Hon Dr GavinWebb, Steve
Stringer, GrahamWhite, Brian
Stuart, Ms GiselaWhitehead, Dr Alan
Stunell, AndrewWicks, Malcolm
Sutcliffe, GerryWilliams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W)
Taylor, Rt Hon Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Williams, Alan W (E Carmarthen)
Taylor, Ms Dari (Stockton S)Williams, Mrs Betty (Conwy)
Taylor, David (NW Leics)Willis, Phil
Temple-Morris, PeterWills, Michael
Thomas, Gareth R (Harrow W)Winnick, David
Thomas, Simon (Ceredigion)Winterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C)
Timms, StephenWoodward, Shaun
Tipping, PaddyWoolas, Phil
Todd, MarkWray, James
Tonge, Dr JennyWright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth)
Trickett, JonWright, Tony (Cannock)
Turner, Dennis (Wolverh'ton SE)
Turner, Dr Desmond (Kemptown)Tellers for the Ayes:
Turner, Dr George (NW Norfolk)Mr. Don Touhig and
Turner, Neil (Wigan)Mr. Ian Pearson.
NOES
Ainsworth, Peter (E Surrey)Hamilton, Rt Hon Sir Archie
Amess, DavidHammond, Philip
Arbuthnot, Rt Hon JamesHayes, John
Atkinson, Peter (Hexham)Heald, Oliver
Baldry, TonyHeathcoat-Amory, Rt Hon David
Beggs, RoyHoram, John
Bercow, JohnHoward, Rt Hon Michael
Beresford, Sir PaulHowarth, Gerald (Aldershot)
Blunt, CrispinHunter, Andrew
Body, Sir RichardJackson, Robert (Wantage)
Boswell, TimJenkin, Bernard
Brady, GrahamJohnson Smith, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
Brazier, Julian
Brooke, Rt Hon PeterKey, Robert
Browning, Mrs AngelaKirkbride, Miss Julie
Burns, SimonLaing, Mrs Eleanor
Butterfill, JohnLait, Mrs Jacqui
Cash, WilliamLansley, Andrew
Chapman, Sir Sydney (Chipping Barnet)Leigh, Edward
Letwin, Oliver
Chope, ChristopherLewis, Dr Julian (New Forest E)
Clark, Dr Michael (Rayleigh)Lidington, David
Collins, TimLloyd, Rt Hon Sir Peter (Fareham)
Cormack, Sir PatrickLoughton, Tim
Cran, JamesLyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas
Curry, Rt Hon DavidMcCrea, Dr William
Davies, Quentin (Grantham)McIntosh, Miss Anne
Davis, Rt Hon David (Haltemprice)Maclean, Rt Hon David
Day, StephenMcLoughlin, Patrick
Duncan, AlanMalins, Humfrey
Evans, NigelMaples, John
Fabricant, MichaelMoss, Malcolm
Fallon, MichaelNicholls, Patrick
Forth, Rt Hon EricNorman, Archie
Fowler, Rt Hon Sir NormanO'Brien, Stephen (Eddisbury)
Fox, Dr LiamOttaway, Richard
Gale, RogerPage, Richard
Garnier, EdwardPickles, Eric
Gibb, NickPortillo, Rt Hon Michael
Gill, ChristopherPrior, David
Gillan, Mrs CherylRandall, John
Gorman, Mrs TeresaRedwood, Rt Hon John
Gray, JamesRobertson, Laurence (Tewk'b'ry)
Greenway, JohnRoe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne)
Grieve, DominicSt Aubyn, Nick
Sayeed, JonathanViggers, Peter
Shephard, Rt Hon Mrs GillianWalter, Robert
Shepherd, RichardWaterson, Nigel
Simpson, Keith (Mid-Norfolk)Whitney, Sir Raymond
Smyth, Rev Martin (Belfast S)Whittingdale, John
Spelman, Mrs CarolineWiddecombe, Rt Hon Miss Ann
Spring, RichardWilkinson, John
Stanley, Rt Hon Sir JohnWilletts, David
Streeter, GaryWilshire, David
Swayne, DesmondWinterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton)
Syms, RobertWinterton, Nicholas (Macclesfield)
Taylor, Ian (Esher & Walton)Yeo, Tim
Taylor, Rt Hon John D (Strangford)Young, Rt Hon Sir George
Taylor, Sir Teddy
Townend, JohnTellers for the Noes:
Tredinnick, DavidMr. Peter Luff and
Trend, MichaelMr. Geoffrey Clifton-Brown.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Order for Third Reading read.

Photo of Michael Martin Michael Martin Speaker of the House of Commons

Before I call the Minister to speak on Third Reading, I should announce that I have selected the Amendment in the name of the Liberal Democrat party.

Photo of Edward Leigh Edward Leigh Conservative, Gainsborough

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker Do you think it adequate for the mother of Parliaments to give a Third Reading of just 15 minutes to an important Bill?

Photo of Michael Martin Michael Martin Speaker of the House of Commons

Order. It must be adequate because I am proceeding according to the rules of the House. I call the Minister to speak.

Photo of John Denham John Denham Minister of State (Department of Health) 9:46, 14 February 2001

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

Had the hon. Member for Gainsborough (Mr. Leigh) been here earlier, he would have heard his colleagues argue that an hour was far too long to spend on Third Reading of a Bill of this sort. The House would welcome a little bit of co-ordination by Opposition Members.

As we approach the end of the Commons stage on the Bill, I want to make a few points. The Bill is vital to implement the NHS plan. As a Government, we inherited a fragmented and under-resourced NHS; buildings were crumbling and there were too few staff. We have already acted to end the internal market, to get the biggest ever hospital building programme under way, to set up primary care groups and trusts and to expand the training of staff. We are now seeing unprecedented investment in the NHS which, however, must be investment for modernisation. The measures in the Bill make sure that that will happen.

First, it is a decentralising and devolving Bill, which underpins the principle of earned autonomy for the best run parts of the health service, together with the principles of less performance; management and greater financial freedom. It gives new powers to the NHS and local councils to work together at local level. They already have partnership powers; row they have the ability to create new joint organisations and a new level of partnership to provide a seamless care service for the elderly, the mentally ill and children. Those powers have been widely welcomed and sought. Unfortunately, not all right hon. and hon. Members have taken a close interest in the Bill, but it is no less important for that.

Photo of John Denham John Denham Minister of State (Department of Health)

If my hon. Friend will forgive me, I should like to make a little progress.

As we have just discussed, the Bill provides more power for patients and increased democratic local scrutiny. It also enables us to tackle variations. The best of the NHS is extremely good, but the variations in the service are too wide. As we develop earned autonomy for the best parts of the system, we have more effective means to support and intervene in any part of the system in which performance is poor or trusts are failing. The Bill underlines the new performance management system and the performance fund that will be worth £250 million in two or three years' time. It gives us the power, if needed as a last resort, to tackle failing trusts.

The Bill gives us the power to tackle variations in primary care. The new unified budget will make it easier for health authorities to determine the expansion of GP numbers, attract more GPs to deprived areas and enable them to work in better premises. The Bill makes possible a new partnership to invest £1 billion in primary care premises and one-stop primary centres, starting in deprived areas. It therefore helps our commitment to tackle health inequalities.

The Bill also enables us to protect the quality of patient services. All GPs will be on health authority lists; there will be a new system of suspension, removal and appeal which means that, in the small number of cases in which it is needed, there will be a faster and more effective system to safeguard patients and a fairer system for GPs. It enables us to hour the agreement with the British Medical Association that, as GPs move on to lists, all of them will be able to join the NHS pension scheme. It will take some months to get the lists into place, but our aim is to backdate them to April this year. We rightly extend the list system to other health professionals.

The Bill protects patients and improves the quality of care in other ways, for example, by ensuring tight controls over the use of patient information and by enabling patients to have more information about their own personal care. The Bill backs innovation: it provides for new ways of providing pharmaceutical services, establishes new groups of health professionals able to prescribe prescription drugs, and creates new powers to ensure that the NHS can benefit properly and fairly from its own research and innovation.

The Bill brings new fairness to health care for the elderly. For the first time ever, NHS nursing care will be free wherever it is delivered. It ends the means test of health care in nursing homes. That is a huge step forward, which goes with the investment by 2004–05 of £1 billion in new and improved health and social care services for the elderly.

That means turning our back on Tory privatisation, on the cuts that they promised in social care, and on the cuts that they promised in health care to make up for the money that they would not raise from tobacco, and the money that they would waste on subsidising private health insurance. It reverses Tory plans to make people pay for hip operations, knee operations, cataract operations and hernias. It is an important Bill, which underpins the Government's commitment to the long-term future and modernisation of the NHS.

Photo of Liam Fox Liam Fox Shadow Secretary of State for Health 9:50, 14 February 2001

I begin by correcting the first of a remarkable list of inaccuracies in the Minister's speech. He said that we did not want as much time as was allocated for Third Reading. The point that we made at the beginning of the day was that we had very little time for all the remaining stages of the Bill, including the Government's new clauses and more than 120 amendments. It is a sad reflection on the new procedure in the House that we have been able to give so little consideration to the remaining stages. The one correct thing that the Minister said was that the Bill was extremely important.

The Bill must be judged by whether it will improve the overall health care in this country and the running of the national health service. Almost any medical or nursing group that we speak to throughout the country speaks about morale in the NHS being at an all-time low, more people leaving the service than ever before, more doctors taking early retirement than ever before—

Photo of Maria Eagle Maria Eagle Labour, Liverpool, Garston

The hon. Gentleman is talking down the NHS again.

Photo of Liam Fox Liam Fox Shadow Secretary of State for Health

The hon. Lady says that I am talking the service down. Her Government have been in charge of the NHS for the past four years. More people are leaving the service than ever before. That is one thing for which she cannot blame the previous Government. This is the fourth winter that the Government have been in control of the health service, where morale among staff is clearly very poor. I wonder when the Government will take responsibility for anything that they are getting wrong.

Increased numbers of people are waiting to be treated in the service. The Government talk about the number by which they have reduced the in-patient waiting list. The Minister deprecates the private sector, but it is worth pointing out that since the Government came to office, 450,000 people have left the waiting list of their own volition to purchase treatment in the private sector with their savings. Had it not been for people being forced to use their savings by the waiting times overseen by the Government, the waiting lists would have risen by even more than they have.

Notwithstanding that huge reduction, as a result of the fact that people have been willing to pay, often for life-saving treatments, with their life savings, the total number of patients waiting in our system has gone up, if one adds together the in-patients and the waiting list for the waiting list, which has soared since the Government came to power.

Perhaps worse than that are the distorted priorities in the system. In the short time available to me, I will not go over the catalogue of horrors that we have heard in recent debates and which have been raised in the House during Question Time. When surgeons are asked to cancel waiting lists for surgery for cancer patients so that they can treat more minor cases, we must wonder about the ethical basis for our system. Under the Government's bizarre and distorted waiting list initiative, we have reached the point when we are debating whether to treat the sickest patients first. That is the background to the debate, and the level of distortion that now exists in the system.

Ministers have failed to tackle the most important thing of all—not the number of patients waiting, but what the service does. There is nothing in the Bill about outcome-based targets for a system and a country that has just slipped behind Turkey in life expectancy—down to 19th place in the world. In many priority areas, the NHS fails to deliver outcomes that we might rightfully expect for the fourth wealthiest nation in the world, yet patients with in-growing toe nails and impacted wisdom teeth are being removed from the waiting list simply to make the figures look better for Ministers. That is a disgraceful way to run a service.

Against that background, we are faced with the NHS plan and the Bill. The NHS plan is not a plan in the sense in which most people would understand that word. It is more of a wish list, as we see when we consider some of its particular aspects and scrutinise them in detail. Such aspects include the number of staff required. Medical bodies such as the British Medical Association and the royal colleges tell us not only that the Bill does nothing for the provision of staff, but that the numbers are greatly underestimated in the first place.

The Minister tells us that the Bill is a decentralising measure. He has many talents, but he has only recently turned his hand to comedy. The Bill could not be described as decentralising by any stretch of the imagination. It will reinforce all the micro-management tendencies of the current Government, who genuinely believe that a service that employs a million people can be managed from behind a single Minister's desk in Whitehall. There is constant interference with management and the Department is continually distributing circulars that make it impossible for anyone to set budgets for any length of time and which force those in NHS management to go chasing after packets of money for which they must compete by investing huge amounts of their time and energy. We need depoliticisation and decentralisation, but the Bill gives us increased centralisation.

That is not to say that the Opposition do not welcome some parts of the Bill. We welcome the extension of nursing care, which the Minister mentioned. We also welcome proper control of locums. From my personal experience, I think that that is long overdue in the NHS. We do not pretend for a minute that every aspect of the Bill is undesirable, but three major issues make it completely unpalatable.

The first issue is the abolition of community health councils, which we have recently addressed. Let me make the Opposition's position perfectly clear. We think that the new clauses introduced on Report will reduce the damage caused by the abolition of CHCs, but we do not accept them because we do not accept that policy. We will continue to press for retention and reform of CHCs as the Bill proceeds through the House of Lords. I believe that we will have the support of Liberal Democrats in the other place in carrying that process forward. There is no doubt that the abolition of CHCs is a completely unacceptable policy, as it removes an independent voice for patients, as well as their ability to use a single point of access into the system.

None of the questions that we asked earlier were answered. We had no answer about cost or about what would happen to the staff or to confidential information. We have debated the ownership and confidentiality of patient information, and have considered where it should rest. A huge volume of information about patients is contained in the records of CHCs throughout the country. Having spent time debating those matters, however, we have reached Third Reading and we do not yet know where that information will go. As it may contain complaints about specific doctors or hospitals, it could potentially return to those doctors or hospitals.

Photo of David Maclean David Maclean Conservative, Penrith and The Border

My hon. Friend's point about CHCs worries us all, but what concerns the doctors and surgeons in my Constituency and those of other Opposition Members is the fact that the Government are taking away their clinical freedom. Will he give an absolute assurance that after the election, when he is in charge of health policy and the Conservative party is in government, the distorted priorities imposed from the centre by Labour Ministers will be swept away and doctors will have the freedom to treat the sickest first?

Photo of Mr Paul Tyler Mr Paul Tyler Liberal Democrat, North Cornwall

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. I beg to move the Amendment standing in the name of Liberal Democrat Members.

Photo of Michael Martin Michael Martin Speaker of the House of Commons

I cannot allow that on a point of order. The hon. Member for Woodspring (Dr. Fox) is on his feet and has the Floor.

Photo of Liam Fox Liam Fox Shadow Secretary of State for Health

At least two hon. Members who have spoken today would benefit from reading "Erskine May". You mentioned one earlier, Mr. Speaker; I offer you another candidate.

I give my right hon. Friend the Member for Penrith and The Border (Mr. Maclean) the assurance that he seeks. In a few months, when the electorate have decided that they need a change of Government, we shall return to a system of proper clinical priorities that treats the sickest patients first.

Another unacceptable aspect of the Bill is the interventionism in hiring and firing trust board members, and the ability of the Secretary of State to set terms and conditions of employment. That will allow greater manipulation of and further controls over information for which Clause 62 provides. The Secretary of State will be able to perform unacceptable actions, including publishing patient information if he chooses to do that.

It being Ten o'clock, MR. SPEAKER put the Question already proposed from the Chair, pursuant to Order [7 November and this day].

Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time:—

The House divided: Ayes 310, Noes 168.

Division No. 128][10 pm
AYES
Adams, Mrs Irene (Paisley N)Begg, Miss Anne
Ainger, NickBell, Stuart (Middlesbrough)
Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE)Benn, Hilary (Leeds C)
Anderson, Rt Hon Donald (Swansea E)Bennett, Andrew F
Benton, Joe
Armstrong, Rt Hon Ms HilaryBermingham, Gerald
Ashton, JoeBerry, Roger
Atkins, CharlotteBest, Harold
Austin, JohnBetts, Clive
Bailey, AdrianBlears, Ms Hazel
Banks, TonyBlizzard, Bob
Barnes, HarryBorrow, David
Barron, KevinBradshaw, Ben
Battle, JohnBrinton, Mrs Helen
Bayley, HughBrown, Russell (Dumfries)
Beard, NigelBrowne, Desmond
Beckett, Rt Hon Mrs MargaretBuck, Ms Karen
Burden, RichardGriffiths, Jane (Reading E)
Burgon, ColinGriffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Byers, Rt Hon StephenGriffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge)Grocott, Bruce
Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V)Grogan, John
Campbell-Savours, DaleGunnell, John
Cann, JamieHall, Mike (Weaver Vale)
Caplin, IvorHamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE)
Caton, MartinHanson David
Cawsey, IanHarman, Rt Hon Ms Harriet
Chapman, Ben (Wirral S)Henderson, Doug (Newcastle N)
Chaytor, DavidHenderson, Ivan (Harwich)
Clapham, MichaelHendrick, Mark
Clark, Rt Hon Dr David (S Shields)Hepburn, Stephen
Clark, Paul (Gillingham)Heppell, John
Clarke, Charles (Norwich S)Hesford, Stephen
Clarke, Eric (Midlothian)Hewitt, Ms Patricia
Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge)Hinchliffe, David
Clarke, Tony (Northampton S)Hodge, MS Margaret
Clelland, DavidHope, Phil
Coaker, VernonHopkins, Kelvin
Coffey, Ms AnnHowarth, George (Knowsley N)
Cohen, HarryHowells, Dr Kim
Coleman, IainHoyle, Lindsay
Colman, TonyHughes, Ms Beverley (Stretford)
Connarty, MichaelHumble, Mrs Joan
Cooper, YvetteHutton, John
Corbett, RobinIddon, Dr Brian
Corbyn, JeremyIllsley, Eric
Cousins, JimJackson, Ms Glenda (Hampstead)
Cox, TomJackson, Helen (Hillsborough)
Cranston, RossJamieson, David
Crausby, DavidJenkins, Brian
Cryer, John (Hornchurch)Johnson, Alan (Hull W & Hessle)
Cummings, JohnJones, Mrs Fiona (Newark)
Cunningham, Jim (Cov'try S)Jones, Helen (Warrington N)
Cunningham, Ms Roseanna (Perth)Jones, Ms Jenny (Wolverh'ton SW)
Darling, Rt Hon AlistairJones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C)
Darvill, KeithJones, Dr Lynne (Selly Oak)
Davey, Valerie (Bristol W)Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S)
Davidson, IanJowell, Ftt Hon Ms Tessa
Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli)Joyce, Eric
Davies, Geraint (Croydon C)Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
Davis, Rt Hon Terry (B'ham Hodge H)Keeble, Ms Sally
Keen, Alan (Feltham & Heston)
Dawson, HiltonKeen, Ann (Brentford & Isleworth)
Denham, Rt Hon JohnKemp, Fraser
Dismore, AndrewKidney, David
Dobbin, JimKilfoyle, Peter
Dobson, Rt Hon FrankKing, Andy (Rugby & Kenilworth)
Donohoe, Brian HKumar, Dr Ashok
Doran, FrankLadyman, Dr Stephen
Dowd, JimLammy, David
Drew, DavidLawrence, Mrs Jackie
Dunwoody, Mrs GwynethLaxton, Bob
Eagle, Angela (Wallasey)Lepper, David
Eagle, Maria (L'pool Garston)Leslie Christopher
Edwards, HuwLevitt, Tom
Efford, CliveLewis, Ivan (Bury S)
Ellman, Mrs LouiseLiddell, Rt Hon Mrs Helen
Ennis, JeffLinton, Martin
Etherington, BillLock, David
Fisher, MarkLove, Andrew
Fitzpatrick, JimMcAvoy, Thomas
Fitzsimons, Mrs LornaMcCabe, Steve
Flint, CarolineMcCartney, Rt Hon Ian (Makerfield)
Flynn, Paul
Foster, Rt Hon DerekMcDonagh, Siobhain
Foulkes, GeorgeMacdonald, Calum
Galloway, GeorgeMcDonnell, John
George, Rt Hon Bruce (Walsall S)McGuire, Mrs Anne
Gerrard, NeilMcIsaac, Shona
Gibson, Dr IanMackinlay, Andrew
Gilroy, Mrs LindaMcNamara Kevin
Golding, Mrs LlinMcNulty, Tony
MacShane, DenisSalter, Martin
Mactaggart, FionaSarwar, Mohammad
McWalter, TonySavidge, Malcolm
McWilliam, JohnSawford, Phil
Mahon, Mrs AliceSedgemore, Brian
Mallaber, JudySheldon, Rt Hon Robert
Mandelson, Rt Hon PeterShipley, Ms Debra
Marsden, Gordon (Blackpool S)Singh, Marsha
Marsden, Paul (Shrewsbury)Skinner, Dennis
Marshall, David (Shettleston)Smith, Rt Hon Andrew (Oxford E)
Marshall, Jim (Leicester S)Smith, Miss Geraldine (Morecambe & Lunesdale)
Martlew, Eric
Meacher, Rt Hon MichaelSmith, Jacqui (Redditch)
Meale, AlanSmith, John (Glamorgan)
Merron, GillianSoley, Clive
Michael, Rt Hon AlunSouthworth, Ms Helen
Michie, Bill (Shef'ld Heeley)Spellar, John
Milburn, Rt Hon AlanSquire, Ms Rachel
Miller, AndrewStarkey, Dr Phyllis
Mitchell, AustinSteinberg, Gerry
Moffatt, LauraStewart, Ian (Eccles)
Morgan, Ms Julie (Cardiff N)Stinchcombe, Paul
Morris, Rt Hon Ms Estelle (B'ham Yardley)Stoate, Dr Howard
Strang, Rt Hon Dr Gavin
Morris, Rt Hon Sir John (Aberavon)Stringer, Graham
Stuart, Ms Gisela
Mullin, ChrisSutcliffe, Gerry
Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck)Taylor, Rt Hon Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Murphy, Jim (Eastwood)
Murphy, Rt Hon Paul (Torfaen)Taylor, Ms Dari (Stockton S)
Naysmith, Dr DougTaylor, David (NW Leics)
Norris, DanTemple-Morris, Peter
O'Brien, Bill (Normanton)Thomas, Gareth R (Harrow W)
O'Hara, EddieTimms, Stephen
Olner, BillTipping, Paddy
O'Neill, MartinTodd, Mark
Organ, Mrs DianaTouhig, Don
Pearson, IanTrickett, Jon
Pickthall, ColinTurner, Dennis (Wolverh'ton SE)
Pike, Peter LTurner, Dr Desmond (Kemptown)
Pond, ChrisTurner, Dr George (NW Norfolk)
Pope, GregTurner, Neil (Wigan)
Pound, StephenTwigg, Derek (Halton)
Powell, Sir RaymondTwigg, Stephen (Enfield)
Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E)Vaz, Keith
Prentice, Gordon (Pendle)Vis, Dr Rudi
Prescott, Rt Hon JohnWalley, Ms Joan
Primarolo, DawnWard, Ms Claire
Prosser, GwynWareing, Robert N
Purchase, KenWatts, David
Quin, Rt Hon Ms JoyceWhite Brian
Quinn, LawrieWhitehead, Dr Alan
Rammell, BillWicks, Malcolm
Raynsford, NickWilliams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W)
Reed, Andrew (Loughborough)Williams, Alan W (E Carmarthen)
Robertson, John (Glasgow Anniesland)Williams, Mrs Betty (Conwy)
Wills, Michael
Robinson, Geoffrey (Cov'try NW)Winnick, David
Rogers, AllanWinterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C)
Rooker, Rt Hon JeffWoodward, Shaun
Rooney, TerryWoolas, Phil
Ross, Ernie (Dundee W)Wray, James
Rowlands, TedWright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth)
Roy, FrankWright, Tony (Cannock)
Ruane, ChrisWyatt, Derek
Ruddock, Joan
Russell, Ms Christine (Chester)Tellers for the Ayes:
Ryan, Ms JoanMr. Kevin Hughes and
Salmond, AlexMr. Graham Allen.
NOES
Ainsworth, Peter (E Surrey)Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy
Allan, RichardAtkinson, Peter (Hexham)
Amess, DavidBaker, Norman
Ancram, Rt Hon MichaelBaldry, Tony
Arbuthnot, Rt Hon JamesBallard, Jackie
Beggs, RoyJohnson Smith, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
Beith, Rt Hon AJ
Bell, Martin (Tatton)Keetch, Paul
Bercow, JohnKey, Robert
Beresford, Sir PaulKirkbride, Miss Julie
Blunt, CrispinKirkwood, Archy
Body, Sir RichardLaing, Mrs Eleanor
Boswell, TimLait, Mrs Jacqui
Bottomley, Peter (Worthing W)Lansley, Andrew
Bottomley, Rt Hon Mrs VirginiaLeigh, Edward
Brady, GrahamLetwin, Oliver
Brake, TomLewis, Dr Julian (New Forest E)
Brand, Dr PeterLidington, David
Brazier, JulianLivsey, Richard
Breed, ColinLloyd, Rt Hon Sir Peter (Fareham)
Brooke, Rt Hon PeterLoughton, Tim
Browning, Mrs AngelaLyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas
Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon)McCrea, Dr William
Burnett, JohnMcIntosh, Miss Anne
Burns, SimonMacKay, Rt Hon Andrew
Burstow, PaulMaclean, Rt Hon David
Butterfill, JohnMcLoughlin, Patrick
Cash, WilliamMalins, Humfrey
Chapman, Sir Sydney (Chipping Barnet)Maples, John
Mates, Michael
Chope, ChristopherMichie, Mrs Ray (Argyll & Bute)
Clark, Dr Michael (Rayleigh)Moore, Michael
Clark, Rt Hon Kenneth (Rushcliffe)Moss, Malcolm
Nicholls, Patrick
Collins, TimNorman, Archie
Cormack, Sir PatrickOaten, Mark
Cotter, BrianO'Brien, Stephen (Eddisbury)
Cran, JamesÖpik, Lembit
Curry, Rt Hon DavidOttaway, Richard
Davey, Edward (Kingston)Page, Richard
Davies, Quentin (Grantham)Pickles, Eric
Davis, Rt Hon David (Haltemprice)Portillo, Rt Hon Michael
Day, StephenPrior, David
Duncan, AlanRandall, John
Emery, Rt Hon Sir PeterRedwood, Rt Hon John
Evans, NigelRendel, David
Fabricant, MichaelRobertson, Laurence (Tewk'b'ry)
Fallon, MichaelRoe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne)
Feam, RonnieRussell, Bob (Colchester)
Flight, HowardSt Aubyn, Nick
Forth, Rt Hon EricSanders, Adrian
Fowler, Rt Hon Sir NormanSayeed, Jonathan
Fox, Dr LiamShephard, Rt Hon Mrs Gillian
Gale, RogerShepherd, Richard
Garnier, EdwardSimpson, Keith (Mid-Norfolk)
George, Andrew (St Ives)Smith, Sir Robert (W Ab'd'ns)
Gibb, NickSmyth, Rev Martin (Belfast S)
Gidley, SandraSoames, Nicholas
Gill, ChristopherSpelman, Mrs Caroline
Gillan, Mrs CherylSpring, Richard
Gorman, Mrs TeresaStanley, Rt Hon Sir John
Gray, JamesSteen, Anthony
Greenway, JohnStreeter, Gary
Grieve, DominicStunell, Andrew
Gummer, Rt Hon JohnSwayne, Desmond
Hamilton, Rt Hon Sir ArchieSyms, Robert
Hammond, PhilipTaylor, Ian (Esher & Walton)
Hancock, MikeTaylor, Rt Hon John D (Strangford)
Harris, Dr EvanTaylor, Sir Teddy
Harvey, NickThomas, Simon (Ceredigion)
Hayes, JohnTonge, Dr Jenny
Heald, OliverTownend, John
Heath, David (Somerton & Frome)Tredinnick, David
Heathcoat-Amory, Rt Hon DavidTrend, Michael
Horam, JohnTyler, Paul
Howard, Rt Hon MichaelViggers, Peter
Howarth, Gerald (Aldershot)Walter, Robert
Hughes, Simon (Southwark N)Waterson, Nigel
Hunter, AndrewWebb, Steve
Jackson, Robert (Wantage)Whitney, Sir Raymond
Jenkin, BernardWhittingdale, John
Widdecombe, Rt Hon Miss AnnYeo, Tim
Wilkinson, JohnYoung, Rt Hon Sir George
Willetts, David
Willis, PhilTellers for the Noes:
Wilshire, DavidMr. Geoffrey Clifton-Brown
Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton)and
Winterton, Nicholas (Macclesfield)Mr. Peter Luff.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Bill read the Third time, and passed.

Clause

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Printed in the margin next to each clause is a brief explanatory `side-note' giving details of what the effect of the clause will be.

During the committee stage of a bill, MPs examine these clauses in detail and may introduce new clauses of their own or table amendments to the existing clauses.

When a bill becomes an Act of Parliament, clauses become known as sections.

Secretary of State

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division

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Speaker

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give way

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Tory

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They were opposed by Tories, from the Irish word toraidhe (literally, "pursuer," but commonly applied to highwaymen and cow thieves). It was used — obviously derisively — to refer to those who supported the Crown.

By the mid 1700s, the words Tory and Whig were commonly used to describe two political groupings. Tories supported the Church of England, the Crown, and the country gentry, while Whigs supported the rights of religious dissent and the rising industrial bourgeoisie. In the 19th century, Whigs became Liberals; Tories became Conservatives.

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Question Time is an opportunity for MPs and Members of the House of Lords to ask Government Ministers questions. These questions are asked in the Chamber itself and are known as Oral Questions. Members may also put down Written Questions. In the House of Commons, Question Time takes place for an hour on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays after Prayers. The different Government Departments answer questions according to a rota and the questions asked must relate to the responsibilities of the Government Department concerned. In the House of Lords up to four questions may be asked of the Government at the beginning of each day's business. They are known as 'starred questions' because they are marked with a star on the Order Paper. Questions may also be asked at the end of each day's business and these may include a short debate. They are known as 'unstarred questions' and are less frequent. Questions in both Houses must be written down in advance and put on the agenda and both Houses have methods for selecting the questions that will be asked. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P1 at the UK Parliament site.

other place

The House of Lords. When used in the House of Lords, this phrase refers to the House of Commons.

Whitehall

Whitehall is a wide road that runs through the heart of Westminster, starting at Trafalgar square and ending at Parliament. It is most often found in Hansard as a way of referring to the combined mass of central government departments, although many of them no longer have buildings on Whitehall itself.

constituency

In a general election, each Constituency chooses an MP to represent them. MPs have a responsibility to represnt the views of the Constituency in the House of Commons. There are 650 Constituencies, and thus 650 MPs. A citizen of a Constituency is known as a Constituent

clause

A parliamentary bill is divided into sections called clauses.

Printed in the margin next to each clause is a brief explanatory `side-note' giving details of what the effect of the clause will be.

During the committee stage of a bill, MPs examine these clauses in detail and may introduce new clauses of their own or table amendments to the existing clauses.

When a bill becomes an Act of Parliament, clauses become known as sections.

SPEAKER

The Speaker is an MP who has been elected to act as Chairman during debates in the House of Commons. He or she is responsible for ensuring that the rules laid down by the House for the carrying out of its business are observed. It is the Speaker who calls MPs to speak, and maintains order in the House. He or she acts as the House's representative in its relations with outside bodies and the other elements of Parliament such as the Lords and the Monarch. The Speaker is also responsible for protecting the interests of minorities in the House. He or she must ensure that the holders of an opinion, however unpopular, are allowed to put across their view without undue obstruction. It is also the Speaker who reprimands, on behalf of the House, an MP brought to the Bar of the House. In the case of disobedience the Speaker can 'name' an MP which results in their suspension from the House for a period. The Speaker must be impartial in all matters. He or she is elected by MPs in the House of Commons but then ceases to be involved in party politics. All sides in the House rely on the Speaker's disinterest. Even after retirement a former Speaker will not take part in political issues. Taking on the office means losing close contact with old colleagues and keeping apart from all groups and interests, even avoiding using the House of Commons dining rooms or bars. The Speaker continues as a Member of Parliament dealing with constituent's letters and problems. By tradition other candidates from the major parties do not contest the Speaker's seat at a General Election. The Speakership dates back to 1377 when Sir Thomas Hungerford was appointed to the role. The title Speaker comes from the fact that the Speaker was the official spokesman of the House of Commons to the Monarch. In the early years of the office, several Speakers suffered violent deaths when they presented unwelcome news to the King. Further information can be obtained from factsheet M2 on the UK Parliament website.