Orders of the Day — Greater London Authority (Referendum) Bill – in the House of Commons at 11:45 pm on 11 February 1998.
Lords amendment: No. 3, in page 6, leave out lines 3 to 7 and insert—
("The government propose the establishment of a greater London Authority made up of an elected assembly and a separately elected mayor, both to be elected by Londoners.
Question 1: Are you in favour of an elected assembly?
Put a cross (X) in one box: YES NO
Question 2: Are you in favour of an elected mayor?
Put a cross (X) in one box: YES NO ")
That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendments Nos. 1, 2 and 3; that Mr. Graham Allen, Mr. Stephen Day, Ms Glenda Jackson, Mr. Richard Ottaway and Mr. Nick Raynsford be members of the Committee; that three be the Quorum of the Committee; that the Committee do withdraw immediately.—[Mr. Raynsford.]
Simon Hughes
Opposition Deputy Chief Whip (Commons), Shadow Spokesperson (Health)
On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. This issue arose in the last Parliament after we had considered Lords amendments. We said that, if there was to be a fair reflection of the views of the House, there should be fair representation on the Committee. In the last Parliament, the Committee did include representatives from the Opposition Benches. Is there any way in which, even at this stage, all three parties represented in the debate could be represented on the Committee to ensure that the matter is not carved up again, as it has been in the past?
Mr. Deputy Speaker:
That is not a point of order for the Chair, but it can be raised through the usual channels.
| Division No. 168] | [1.23 am |
| AYES | |
| Ainger, Nick | Field, Rt Hon Frank |
| Allen, Graham | Fisher, Mark |
| Anderson, Donald (Swansea E) | Fitzpatrick, Jim |
| Anderson, Janet (Rossendale) | Fitzsimons, Lorna |
| Atkins, Charlotte | Foster, Michael J (Worcester) |
| Austin, John | Gapes, Mike |
| Barnes, Harry | Gardiner, Barry |
| Barron, Kevin | Gerrard, Neil |
| Bayley, Hugh | Godsiff, Roger |
| Bennett, Andrew F | Goggins, Paul |
| Berry, Roger | Golding, Mrs Llin |
| Betts, Clive | Gordon, Mrs Eileen |
| Blears, Ms Hazel | Griffiths, Jane (Reading E) |
| Blizzard, Bob | Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) |
| Borrow, David | Grogan, John |
| Bradshaw, Ben | Hain, Peter |
| Brown, Rt Hon Nick (Newcastle E) | Hall, Mike (Weaver Vale) |
| Brown, Russell (Dumfries) | Hall, Patrick (Bedford) |
| Buck, Ms Karen | Hamilton, Fabian (Leeds NE) |
| Burden, Richard | Hanson, David |
| Burgon, Colin | Heal, Mrs Sylvia |
| Caborn, Richard | Healey, John |
| Campbell, Alan (Tynemouth) | Henderson, Ivan (Harwich) |
| Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) | Hepburn, Stephen |
| Campbell-Savours, Dale | Heppell, John |
| Canavan, Dennis | Hesford, Stephen |
| Caplin, Ivor | Hewitt, Ms Patricia |
| Casale, Roger | Hill, Keith |
| Caton, Martin | Hinchliffe, David |
| Cawsey, Ian | Home Robertson, John |
| Chapman, Ben (Wirral S) | Hoon, Geoffrey |
| Chaytor, David | Hope, Phil |
| Chisholm, Malcolm | Hopkins, Kelvin |
| Clark, Dr Lynda | Howarth, Alan (Newport E) |
| (Edinburgh Pentlands) | Hoyle, Lindsay |
| Clark, Paul (Gillingham) | Hughes, Ms Beverley (Stretford) |
| Clarke, Rt Hon Tom (Coatbridge) | Hurst, Alan |
| Clelland, David | Hutton, John |
| Clwyd, Ann | Iddon, Dr Brian |
| Coaker, Vernon | Illsley, Eric |
| Coffey, Ms Ann | Jackson, Ms Glenda (Hampstead) |
| Coleman, Iain | Jackson, Helen (Hillsborough) |
| Colman, Tony | Jamieson, David |
| Connarty, Michael | Jenkins, Brian |
| Cooper, Yvette | Johnson, Alan (Hull W & Hessle) |
| Corston, Ms Jean | Johnson, Miss Melanie |
| Crausby, David | (Welwyn Hatfield) |
| Cryer, Mrs Ann (Keighley) | Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside) |
| Cummings, John | Jones, Helen (Warrington N) |
| Darvill, Keith | Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C) |
| Davidson, Ian | Jones, Dr Lynne (Selly Oak) |
| Davies, Geraint (Croydon C) | Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S) |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H) | Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald |
| Dawson, Hilton | Keeble, Ms Sally |
| Dismore, Andrew | Keen, Alan (Feltham & Heston) |
| Donohoe, Brian H | Kemp, Fraser |
| Doran, Frank | Kennedy, Jane (Wavertree) |
| Dowd, Jim | Khabra, Piara S |
| Drew, David | King, Andy (Rugby & Kenilworth) |
| Drown, Ms Julia | King, Ms Oona (Bethnal Green) |
| Efford, Clive | Kingham, Ms Tess |
| Ellman, Mrs Louise | Ladyman, Dr Stephen |
| Ennis, Jeff | Laxton, Bob |
| Etherington, Bill | Lepper, David |
| Leslie, Christopher | Roy, Frank |
| Levitt, Tom | Ruane, Chris |
| Lewis, Ivan (Bury S) | Ruddock, Ms Joan |
| Linton, Martin | Russell, Ms Christine (Chester) |
| Lock, David | Salter, Martin |
| Love, Andrew | Savidge, Malcolm |
| McAllion, John | Sawford, Phil |
| McAvoy, Thomas | Simpson, Alan (Nottingham S) |
| McCabe, Steve | Skinner, Dennis |
| McCartney, Ian (Makerfield) | Smith, Rt Hon Andrew (Oxford E) |
| Macdonald, Calum | Smith, Angela (Basildon) |
| McFall, John | Smith, Miss Geraldine |
| McGuire, Mrs Anne | (Morecambe & Lunesdale) |
| McIsaac, Shona | Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent) |
| Mackinlay, Andrew | Snape, Peter |
| McNulty, Tony | Soley, Clive |
| McWilliam, John | Southworth, Ms Helen |
| Marek, Dr John | Spellar, John |
| Marsden, Gordon (Blackpool S) | Squire, Ms Rachel |
| Marsden, Paul (Shrewsbury) | Starkey, Dr Phyllis |
| Marshall, David (Shettleston) | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) | Stevenson, George |
| Marshall-Andrews, Robert | Stewart, David (Inverness E) |
| Martlew, Eric | Stringer, Graham |
| Michael, Alun | Stuart, Ms Gisela |
| Michie, Bill (Shef'ld Heeley) | Sutclifre, Gerry |
| Miller, Andrew | Taylor, David (NW Leics) |
| Thomas, Gareth (Clwyd W) | |
| Moran, Ms Margaret | Timms, Stephen |
| Morgan, Ms Julie (Cardiff N) | Tipping, Paddy |
| Morgan, Rhodri (Cardiff W) | Touhig, Don |
| Morley, Elliot | Trickett, Jon |
| Morris, Ms Estelle (B'ham Yardley) | Truswell, Paul |
| Mudie, George | Turner, Dr George (NW Norfolk) |
| Mullin, Chris | Twigg, Derek (Halton) |
| Murphy, Denis (Wansbeck) | Twigg, Stephen (Enfield) |
| Naysmith, Dr Doug | Vaz, Keith |
| Norris, Dan | Vis, Dr Rudi |
| O'Hara, Eddie | Wareing, Robert N |
| Osborne, Ms Sandra | Watts, David |
| Palmer, Dr Nick | White, Brian |
| Pickthall, Colin | Whitehead, Dr Alan |
| Pike, Peter L | Wicks, Malcolm |
| Plaskitt, James | Williams, Alan W (E Carmarthen) |
| Pond, Chris | Wills, Michael |
| Pope, Greg | Wilson, Brian |
| Pound, Stephen | Wnterton, Ms Rosie (Doncaster C) |
| Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lewisham E) | Wood, Mike |
| Prentice, Gordon (Pendle) | Woolas, Phil |
| Prosser, Gwyn | Worthington, Tony |
| Purchase, Ken | Wray, James |
| Quin, Ms Joyce | Wright, Anthony D (Gt Yarmouth) |
| Quinn, Lawrie | Wright, Dr Tony (Cannock) |
| Rammell, Bill | Wyatt, Derek |
| Rapson, Syd | |
| Raynsford, Nick | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Rooker, Jeff | Mr. Kevin Hughes and Mr. Robert Ainsworth. |
| Rooney, Terry |
| NOES | |
| Allan, Richard | Kirkwood, Archy |
| Ashdown, Rt Hon Paddy | Moore, Michael |
| Baker, Norman | Öpik, Lembit |
| Ballard, Mrs Jackie | Rendel, David |
| Beith, Rt Hon A J | Russell, Bob (Colchester) |
| Brand, Dr Peter | Sanders, Adrian |
| Burstow Paul | Smith, Sir Robert (W Ab'd'ns) |
| Taylor, Matthew (Truro) | |
| Campbell, Menzies (NE Fife) | Wallace, James |
| Cotter, Brian | Webb, Steve |
| Davey, Edward (Kingston) | Willis, Phil |
| Harris, Dr Evan | |
| Heath, David (Somerton & Frome) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Hughes, Simon (Southwark N) | Mr. Paul Tyler and Mr. Don Foster. |
| Keetch, Paul | |
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