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Business of the House

Part of the debate – in the House of Commons at 3:32 pm on 4th May 1995.

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Photo of Mr David Shaw Mr David Shaw , Dover 3:32 pm, 4th May 1995

On a point of order, Madam Speaker. I have heard the comments of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Security referred to frequently in the House. I was at that lunch and he did not say what hon. Members are claiming he said.