Sport in Schools

Part of the debate – in the House of Commons at 10:15 pm on 28 February 1991.

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Photo of Mr Robert Atkins Mr Robert Atkins , South Ribble 10:15, 28 February 1991

The hon. Gentleman will appreciate that I shall write to him on any details not covered now.

There is one matter to which I can respond—the dual use of school sports facilities. I do not think that he and I are divided on our commitment to dual use facilities, in which I strongly believe. As the hon. Gentleman said, we are preparing a practical guidance booklet for schools and LEAs on dual use, and we hope to publish that shortly. We have identified a legal uncertainty about which we are corresponding with Gloucestershire county council as a loal education authority. The point is about the powers of governors to enter into agreements with third parties.

We are considering how best to approach that problem. I cannot issue immediate advice in the House, because I may need to take further legal advice. As I said to the hon. Gentleman, I shall pursue these matters with him. We are still working on the matter and it is rather like trying to turn the QE2 around in two minutes. It is a major problem that must be addressed, and the hon. gentleman is fair enough to recognise that such matters cannot be addressed overnight.

The Select Committee on Education, Science and Arts has looked at the matter in some depth, and we await its report. Because of the conference and the consultations and discussions that I have had with the Sports Council, the Central Council for Physical Recreation and many other organisations involved in sport at all levels, I think that the commitment is there. That is largely as a result of the immediate and personal interest in sport taken by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science, my boss, also has an interest, in that he is fortunate enough to have Trent Bridge and Nottingham Forest football ground in his constituency and cannot go far without bumping into the subject.

As I have said, there will shortly be a consultative conference on sport and young people and I hope that that will demonstrate, if it needs to be demonstrated, that the Government, my Department and I in particular have a real interest in these matters.

I am sorry that the hon. Gentleman made great play of the interim working party report. Clearly, there is some discussion about the wording, but there is no dissension about the objectives that we both wish to reach. The Secretary of State and I, having come halfway through the discussions undertaken by the working party, had to take up the cudgels halfway through. I assure the hon. Gentleman and the House that we shall continue to do that, not only in relation to the working party but in terms of the consultative conference. We shall have an interesting frank exchange of views and that will produce a further range of constructive suggestions for action by all the people in this field.

My move to the Department of Education and Science is a clear indication of the priority that the Government place on sport in schools. I know that the hon. Gentleman believes that this important issue should have been drawn to the attention of the House and the country in a more forceful way than has hitherto been the case. The hon. Gentleman nods in agreement.

I thank the hon. Member for Stalybridge and Hyde for raising this important issue, and I hope that I have demonstrated to him in part that the Government are strongly committed to improving the provision of physical education and sport. The hon. Gentleman understands these matters and was right to draw my attention to the concerns and to press me continuously, as I know he will continue to do, on this matter. Without sport in schools, the future of national sport will not be as great as it ought to be.