Clause 3 – in the House of Commons at 9:15 pm on 25 October 1989.
John Redwood
Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Department of Trade and Industry)
9:15,
25 October 1989
I beg to move Amendment No. 7, in page 4, line 44, leave out 'Part I' and insert 'section 3'.
Mr Paul Dean
, Woodspring
With this we shall discuss Government amendments Nos. 8, 9, 11, 12, 16, 18 to 21, 24, 31) and 32 to 67.
John Redwood
Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Department of Trade and Industry)
These amendments make a number of minor changes to part I. Nos. 7 and 8 replace a reference to the commencement of part 1 of the Bill with a reference to the specific provision in question, to allow for the possibility that different provisions in the part are brought into force at different times. Nos. 9 and 10 simply improve the clarity of the part, No. 12 corrects a reference, No. 20 corrects a minor error and No. 24 makes it clear how references to the day on which accounts are sent to shareholders and others are to be interpreted. Nos. 33 and 34 make a minor change to the order-making power in new section 257. They put it beyond doubt that the power includes the power to make consequential amendments elsewhere in the 1985 Act and in other enactments and to make transitional provisions.
The other amendments are all consequential amendments of one form or another.
| Division No. 341] | [9.17pm |
| AYES | |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Dover, Den |
| Alexander, Richard | Dunn, Bob |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael | Durant, Tony |
| Allason, Rupert | Evennett, David |
| Amess, David | Favell, Tony |
| Amos, Alan | Fearn, Ronald |
| Arbuthnot, James | Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Ashby, David | Fishburn, John Dudley |
| Atkins, Robert | Fookes, Dame Janet |
| Atkinson, David | Forman, Nigel |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Batiste, Spencer | Forth, Eric |
| Bellingham, Henry | Fowler, Rt Hon Norman |
| Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Fox, Sir Marcus |
| Benyon, W. | Freeman, Roger |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | French, Douglas |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Gale, Roger |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Garel-Jones, Tristan |
| Boswell, Tim | Glyn, Dr Alan |
| Bottomley, Mrs Virginia | Goodlad, Alastair |
| Bowis, John | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Brandon-Bravo, Martin | Gow, Ian |
| Brazier, Julian | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) | Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) |
| Bruce, Ian (Dorset South) | Ground, Patrick |
| Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) | Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn |
| Buck, Sir Antony | Hague, William |
| Burns, Simon | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Burt, Alistair | Hampson, Dr Keith |
| Butcher, John | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Butler, Chris | Harris, David |
| Butterfill, John | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Hayward, Robert |
| Carlile, Alex (Mont'g) | Heathcoat-Amory, David |
| Carlisle, John, (Luton N) | Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE) |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. |
| Carrington, Matthew | Hind, Kenneth |
| Carttiss, Michael | Hordern, Sir Peter |
| Cash, William | Howard, Michael |
| Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda | Howells, Geraint |
| Chapman, Sydney | Hunt, David (Wirral W) |
| Chope, Christopher | Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) |
| Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) | Hunter, Andrew |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) | Irvine, Michael |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Jack, Michael |
| Cormack, Patrick | Janman, Tim |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina | Jessel, Toby |
| Curry, David | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g) | Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Kennedy, Charles |
| Day, Stephen | Key, Robert |
| Dicks, Terry | Kilfedder, James |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Knapman, Roger |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Knight, Greg (Derby North) |
| Knight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston) | Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge) |
| Knowles, Michael | Shersby, Michael |
| Knox, David | Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) |
| Lang, Ian | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Latham, Michael | Speller, Tony |
| Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh) | Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W) |
| Lilley, Peter | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Livsey, Richard | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| Lord, Michael | Steen, Anthony |
| Lyell, Sir Nicholas | Stevens, Lewis |
| MacGregor, Rt Hon John | Stewart, Andy (Sherwood) |
| MacKay, Andrew (E Berkshire) | Stradling Thomas, Sir John |
| Maclean, David | Sumberg, David |
| Maclennan, Robert | Summerson, Hugo |
| McLoughlin, Patrick | Taylor, John M (Solihull) |
| McNair-Wilson, Sir Michael | Thompson, D. (Calder Valley) |
| Madel, David | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Mans, Keith | Thorne, Neil |
| Maples, John | Thurnham, Peter |
| Marland, Paul | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Marshall, John (Hendon S) | Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath) |
| Martin, David (Portsmouth S) | Tracey, Richard |
| Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Meyer, Sir Anthony | Waddington, Rt Hon David |
| Miscampbell, Norman | Wakeham, Rt Hon John |
| Morrison, Sir Charles | Walker, Bill (T'side North) |
| Nelson, Anthony | Wallace, James |
| Newton, Rt Hon Tony | Walters, Sir Dennis |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Ward, John |
| Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Norris, Steve | Watts, John |
| Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley | Wheeler, John |
| Patnick, Irvine | Whitney, Ray |
| Pawsey, James | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Powell, William (Corby) | Winterton, Mrs Ann |
| Redwood, John | Winterton, Nicholas |
| Riddick, Graham | Wolfson, Mark |
| Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas | Wood, Timothy |
| Ridsdale, Sir Julian | |
| Sainsbury, Hon Tim | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Shaw, David (Dover) | Mr. Tom Sackville and |
| Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) | Mr. Michael Fallon. |
| Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW) |
| NOES | |
| Ashley, Rt Hon Jack | Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside) |
| Ashton, Joe | Lewis, Terry |
| Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) | Livingstone, Ken |
| Barron, Kevin | Lofthouse, Geoffrey |
| Bermingham, Gerald | McCartney, Ian |
| Bradley, Keith | Madden, Max |
| Campbell, Ron (Blyth Valley) | Mahon, Mrs Alice |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Martlew, Eric |
| Canavan, Dennis | Meale, Alan |
| Clay, Bob | Michael, Alun |
| Clelland, David | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Clwyd, Mrs Ann | Morgan, Rhodri |
| Cohen, Harry | Mowlam, Marjorie |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Mullin, Chris |
| Cryer, Bob | Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon |
| Cummings, John | Parry, Robert |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Patchett, Terry |
| Ewing, Mrs Margaret (Moray) | Pike, Peter L. |
| Flynn, Paul | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Fyfe, Maria | Primarolo, Dawn |
| Galloway, George | Ross, Ernie (Dundee W) |
| Godman, Dr Norman A. | Short, Clare |
| Golding, Mrs Llin | Skinner, Dennis |
| Gordon, Mildred | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Hardy, Peter | Vaz, Keith |
| Harman, Ms Harriet | Watson, Mike (Glasgow, C) |
| Haynes, Frank | Welsh, Andrew (Angus E) |
| Hinchliffe, David | Williams, Rt Hon Alan |
| Hoey, Ms Kate (Vauxhall) | Wray, Jimmy |
| Home Robertson, John | |
| Hughes, John (Coventry NE) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Illsley, Eric | Mr. George J. Buckley and |
| Janner, Greville | Mr. Michael Welsh. |
| Division No. 342] | [9.29 pm |
| AYES | |
| Alexander, Richard | Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn |
| Amos, Alan | Hague, William |
| Arbuthnot, James | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Ashby, David | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Atkinson, David | Haselhurst, Alan |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) | Hayward, Robert |
| Batiste, Spencer | Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE) |
| Bellingham, Henry | Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. |
| Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Hind, Kenneth |
| Benyon, W. | Howard, Michael |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Howells, Geraint |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Hunt, David (Wirral W) |
| Boswell, Tim | Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) |
| Bowis, John | Hunter, Andrew |
| Braine, Rt Hon Sir Bernard | Irvine, Michael |
| Brazier, Julian | Jack, Michael |
| Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) | Janman, Tim |
| Bruce, Ian (Dorset South) | Jessel, Toby |
| Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) | Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) |
| Buck, Sir Antony | Key, Robert |
| Burns, Simon | Kilfedder, James |
| Burt, Alistair | Knapman, Roger |
| Butler, Chris | Knight, Greg (Derby North) |
| Butterfill, John | Knight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston) |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Knowles, Michael |
| Carlile, Alex (Mont'g) | Knox, David |
| Carlisle, John, (Luton N) | Lang, Ian |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Latham, Michael |
| Carrington, Matthew | Lester, Jim (Broxtowe) |
| Carttiss, Michael | Lilley, Peter |
| Cash, William | Livsey, Richard |
| Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda | Lord, Michael |
| Chapman, Sydney | Lyell, Sir Nicholas |
| Chope, Christopher | MacGregor, Rt Hon John |
| Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) | Maclean, David |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | McNair-Wilson, Sir Michael |
| Cormack, Patrick | Madel, David |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina | Mans, Keith |
| Curry, David | Marland, Paul |
| Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g) | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | Martin, David (Portsmouth S) |
| Day, Stephen | Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin |
| Dicks, Terry | Meyer, Sir Anthony |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Mills, Iain |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Miscampbell, Norman |
| Dover, Den | Morrison, Sir Charles |
| Dunn, Bob | Nelson, Anthony |
| Durant, Tony | Nicholls, Patrick |
| Evennett, David | Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) |
| Fallon, Michael | Norris, Steve |
| Favell, Tony | Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley |
| Fearn, Ronald | Patnick, Irvine |
| Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) | Pawsey, James |
| Fishburn, John Dudley | Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Fookes, Dame Janet | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Forman, Nigel | Redwood, John |
| Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) | Riddick, Graham |
| Forth, Eric | Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Fox, Sir Marcus | Ridsdale, Sir Julian |
| Freeman, Roger | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| French, Douglas | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Gale, Roger | Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW) |
| Garel-Jones, Tristan | Shersby, Michael |
| Glyn, Dr Alan | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Goodlad, Alastair | Soames, Hon Nicholas |
| Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles | Speller, Tony |
| Gow, Ian | Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W) |
| Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) | Steen, Anthony |
| Ground, Patrick | Stevens, Lewis |
| Stewart, Andy (Sherwood) | Ward, John |
| Stradling Thomas, Sir John | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Summerson, Hugo | Watts, John |
| Taylor, John M (Solihull) | Wheeler, John |
| Thompson, D. (Calder Valley) | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Thorne, Neil | Winterton, Mrs Ann |
| Thurnham, Peter | Winterton, Nicholas |
| Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath) | Wolfson, Mark |
| Tracey, Richard | Wood, Timothy |
| Twinn, Dr Ian | |
| Waddington, Rt Hon David | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Wakeham, Rt Hon John | Mr. David Heathcoat-Amory and Mr. Torn Sackville. |
| Walker, Bill (T'side North) | |
| Wallace, James | |
| Walters, Sir Dennis |
| NOES | |
| Ashton, Joe | Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside) |
| Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) | Lofthouse, Geoffrey |
| Barron, Kevin | McCartney, Ian |
| Campbell, Ron (Blyth Valley) | Mahon, Mrs Alice |
| Campbell-Savours, D. N. | Meale, Alan |
| Canavan, Dennis | Michael, Alun |
| Clwyd, Mrs Ann | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Morgan, Rhodri |
| Cousins, Jim | Parry, Robert |
| Cryer, Bob | Patchett, Terry |
| Cummings, John | Pike, Peter L. |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Dixon, Don | Primarolo, Dawn |
| Ewing, Mrs Margaret (Moray) | Ross, Ernie (Dundee W) |
| Flynn, Paul | Salmond, Alex |
| Galloway, George | Sheerman, Barry |
| Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John | Skinner, Dennis |
| Golding, Mrs Llin | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Hardy, Peter | Vaz, Keith |
| Harman, Ms Harriet | Welsh, Andrew (Angus E) |
| Haynes, Frank | Williams, Rt Hon Alan |
| Hinchliffe, David | Wray, Jimmy |
| Hoey, Ms Kate (Vauxhall) | |
| Howarth, George (Knowsley N) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Hughes, John (Coventry NE) | Mr. Michael Welsh and |
| Illsley, Eric | Mr. George J. Buckley. |
| Janner, Greville | |
A parliamentary bill is divided into sections called clauses.
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In the end only a handful of amendments will be incorporated into any bill.
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The House of Commons votes by dividing. Those voting Aye (yes) to any proposition walk through the division lobby to the right of the Speaker and those voting no through the lobby to the left. In each of the lobbies there are desks occupied by Clerks who tick Members' names off division lists as they pass through. Then at the exit doors the Members are counted by two Members acting as tellers. The Speaker calls for a vote by announcing "Clear the Lobbies". In the House of Lords "Clear the Bar" is called. Division Bells ring throughout the building and the police direct all Strangers to leave the vicinity of the Members’ Lobby. They also walk through the public rooms of the House shouting "division". MPs have eight minutes to get to the Division Lobby before the doors are closed. Members make their way to the Chamber, where Whips are on hand to remind the uncertain which way, if any, their party is voting. Meanwhile the Clerks who will take the names of those voting have taken their place at the high tables with the alphabetical lists of MPs' names on which ticks are made to record the vote. When the tellers are ready the counting process begins - the recording of names by the Clerk and the counting of heads by the tellers. When both lobbies have been counted and the figures entered on a card this is given to the Speaker who reads the figures and announces "So the Ayes [or Noes] have it". In the House of Lords the process is the same except that the Lobbies are called the Contents Lobby and the Not Contents Lobby. Unlike many other legislatures, the House of Commons and the House of Lords have not adopted a mechanical or electronic means of voting. This was considered in 1998 but rejected. Divisions rarely take less than ten minutes and those where most Members are voting usually take about fifteen. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P9 at the UK Parliament site.
As a bill passes through Parliament, MPs and peers may suggest amendments - or changes - which they believe will improve the quality of the legislation.
Many hundreds of amendments are proposed by members to major bills as they pass through committee stage, report stage and third reading in both Houses of Parliament.
In the end only a handful of amendments will be incorporated into any bill.
The Speaker - or the chairman in the case of standing committees - has the power to select which amendments should be debated.