The Chief Secretary to the Treasury will, of course, have read the text of my speech in Hansard, rather than rely on his rather wayward recollection of what he thinks I might have said. If he reads my speech, he will find that I said:
Inevitably from time to time a Government will need to borrow. There will be times when a Government want to be in surplus. It all depends on the circumstances at the time."—[Official Report. 13 July 1988: Vol. 137, c. 396.]
That is what his hon. Friend the Member for Eastbourne also said.