Conditions Attaching to the Possession of Self-Loading Rifles

Orders of the Day — Firearms (Amendment) Bill – in the House of Commons at 12:45 am on 23rd May 1988.

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'No firearm certificate shall authorise a person to possess, purchase or acquire a self-loading or pump-action rifle to which section 5(2) (ab) of the principal Act applies unless that person—

  1. (a) has held a firearms certificate for at least three years, and
  2. (b) has been a full member of a rifle club for at least three years, and
  3. (c) is a member of a club which is affiliated to the National Rifle Association or the United Kingdom Practical Shooting Association and which has been approved by the Secretary of State as a club suitable for target shooting with self-loading rifles, and has satisfactorily completed a course of service rifle or practical rifle shooting approved by either of these Associations, or
  4. (d) has a reason to possess such a gun because of disability or participation in vermin control or deer-culling.'.—[Sir Hector Monro]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:-

The House divided: Ayes 26, Noes 217.

Division No. 319][1.5 am
AYES
Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE)Monro, Sir Hector
Beith, A. J.Moonie, Dr Lewis
Bellingham, HenryRoss, William (Londonderry E)
Bonsor, Sir NicholasSkinner, Dennis
Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon)Walker, Bill (T'side North)
Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon AlickWall, Pat
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE)Wallace, James
Colvin, MichaelWelsh, Andrew (Angus E)
Cook, Frank (Stockton N)Whitney, Ray
Cryer, BobWinterton, Mrs Ann
Dixon, DonWinterton, Nicholas
Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W)
McAllion, JohnTellers for the Ayes:
Maxwell-Hyslop, RobinMr. Jerry Wiggins and Mr. Paul Marland.
Molyneaux, Rt Hon James
NOES
Alexander, RichardArnold, Tom (Hazel Grove)
Alison, Rt Hon MichaelAshby, David
Allason, RupertAtkinson, David
Amess, DavidBaker, Nicholas (Dorset N)
Amos, AlanBaldry, Tony
Arbuthnot, JamesBatiste, Spencer
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham)Beaumont-Dark, Anthony
Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke)Hawkins, Christopher
Bevan, David GilroyHayes, Jerry
Biffen, Rt Hon JohnHeathcoat-Amory, David
Blackburn, Dr John G.Heddle, John
Blaker, Rt Hon Sir PeterHicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE)
Boswell, TimHind, Kenneth
Bottomley, Mrs VirginiaHogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm)
Bowden, A (Brighton K'pto'n)Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A)
Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich)Howarth, G. (Cannock & B'wd)
Bowis, JohnHughes, Robert G. (Harrow W)
Brandon-Bravo, MartinHunt, David (Wirral W)
Brazier, JulianHunt, John (Ravensbourne)
Bright, GrahamHurd, Rt Hon Douglas
Brittan, Rt Hon LeonIrvine, Michael
Brooke, Rt Hon PeterJack, Michael
Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's)Janman, Tim
Burns, SimonJessel, Toby
Burt, AlistairJohnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey
Butcher, JohnJones, Robert B (Herts W)
Butler, ChrisKing, Roger (B'ham N'thfield)
Butterfill, JohnKirkhope, Timothy
Carlisle, John, (Luton N)Knapman, Roger
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln)Knight, Greg (Derby North)
Carrington, MatthewKnight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston)
Cash, WilliamKnowles, Michael
Channon, Rt Hon PaulLang, Ian
Chapman, SydneyLatham, Michael
Chope, ChristopherLawrence, Ivan
Clark, Hon Alan (Plym'th S'n)Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh)
Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford)Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark
Conway, DerekLightbown, David
Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest)Lilley, Peter
Coombs, Simon (Swindon)Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)
Couchman, JamesLord, Michael
Cran, JamesMacGregor, Rt Hon John
Currie, Mrs EdwinaMaclean, David
Curry, DavidMcLoughlin, Patrick
Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g)McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury)
Davis, David (Boothferry)McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest)
Day, StephenMalins, Humfrey
Dorrell, StephenMans, Keith
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord JamesMarshall, John (Hendon S)
Dover, DenMartin, David (Portsmouth S)
Dunn, BobMayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick
Durant, TonyMiller, Hal
Emery, Sir PeterMills, lain
Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd)Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
Fallon, MichaelMitchell, David (Hants NW)
Farr, Sir JohnMoate, Roger
Fenner, Dame PeggyMorris, M (N'hampton S)
Field, Barry (Isle of Wight)Morrison, Hon Sir Charles
Fookes, Miss JanetMoss, Malcolm
Forman, NigelNelson, Anthony
Forsyth, Michael (Stirling)Neubert, Michael
Forth, EricNewton, Rt Hon Tony
Franks, CecilNicholson, David (Taunton)
Freeman, RogerOppenheim, Phillip
French, DouglasPage, Richard
Gale, RogerPaice, James
Gill, ChristopherPatnick, Irvine
Goodhart, Sir PhilipPawsey, James
Goodlad, AlastairPeacock, Mrs Elizabeth
Goodson-Wickes, Dr CharlesPorter, David (Waveney)
Gorman, Mrs TeresaPortillo, Michael
Gorst, JohnPowell, William (Corby)
Gow, IanRaffan, Keith
Gower, Sir RaymondRaison, Rt Hon Timothy
Greenway, Harry (Ealing N)Redwood, John
Greenway, John (Ryedale)Renton, Tim
Gregory, ConalRhodes James, Robert
Griffiths, Sir Eldon (Bury St E')Riddick, Graham
Grist, IanRoberts, Wyn (Conwy)
Ground, PatrickRoe, Mrs Marion
Gummer, Rt Hon John SelwynRossi, Sir Hugh
Hamilton, Hon Archie (Epsom)Rumbold, Mrs Angela
Hamilton, Neil (Tatton)Ryder, Richard
Hanley, JeremySackville, Hon Tom
Hargreaves, A. (B'ham H'll Gr')Sainsbury, Hon Tim
Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn)Sayeed, Jonathan
Harris, DavidShaw, David (Dover)
Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey)Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath)
Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb')Tracey, Richard
Shelton, William (Streatham)Tredinnick, David
Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW)Trotter, Neville
Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)Twinn, Dr Ian
Skeet, Sir TrevorVaughan, Sir Gerard
Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick)Waddington, Rt Hon David
Soames, Hon NicholasWalden, George
Speed, KeithWard, John
Speller, TonyWardle, Charles (Bexhill)
Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W)Watts, John
Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)Wells, Bowen
Squire, RobinWheeler, John
Stanbrook, IvorWiddecombe, Ann
Stern, MichaelWilkinson, John
Stevens, LewisWilshire, David
Stewart, Andy (Sherwood)Wolfson, Mark
Sumberg, DavidWood, Timothy
Summerson, HugoYeo, Tim
Tapsell, Sir PeterYoung, Sir George (Acton)
Taylor, Ian (Esher)
Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N)Tellers for the Noes:
Thorne, NeilMr. Robert Boscawen and
Thurnham, PeterMr. Tristan Garel-Jones.

Question accordingly negatived.

Photo of Mr Harold Walker Mr Harold Walker , Doncaster Central

Does the hon. Member for Newbury (Mr. McNair-Wilson) wish to press new clause 6?