Teachers (Dispute)

Oral Answers to Questions — Education and Science – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 4th February 1986.

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Photo of Mr Dale Campbell-Savours Mr Dale Campbell-Savours , Workington 12:00 am, 4th February 1986

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what meetings he has had since Christmas with the teaching trade unions to discuss the teachers' pay dispute.

Photo of Mr Dale Campbell-Savours Mr Dale Campbell-Savours , Workington

Has the Secretary of State read the report of the Secondary Heads Association, which states that teachers are leaving the profession in droves because of low pay? How does he intend to reverse that drift away from teaching?

Photo of Sir Keith Joseph Sir Keith Joseph , Leeds North East

I am aware that a number, not yet known, of teachers, including good teachers, are quitting the classroom. The Government deeply regret that. It is one reason why the Government have made conditionally available from the taxpayer sufficient extra money to transform career, promotion and pay prospects in return for the acceptance of duties.

Photo of David Maclean David Maclean , Penrith and The Border

Since the ACAS settlement has proved that moderate trade unions can reach a settlement when pay, conditions and duties are discussed together, does my right hon. Friend agree that the Burnham and CLEA committees should be scrapped forthwith?

Photo of Sir Keith Joseph Sir Keith Joseph , Leeds North East

That is the subject of the next question. I must warn my hon. Friend that the ACAS procedure has reached only its first stage. I welcome the progress that has been made, but there is still a great deal of progress to be made, even if the parties ratify the settlement.

Photo of Mr Giles Radice Mr Giles Radice Shadow Secretary of State for Education

How many times has the Secretary of State met representatives of the teachers' unions during the year-long dispute?

Photo of Sir Keith Joseph Sir Keith Joseph , Leeds North East

Recently I answered a question and set out the exact dates and details. In general, I have made myself available, subject to overriding duties, whenever representatives of teachers' unions have asked to see me.