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Part of the debate – in the House of Commons at 5:11 pm on 26th July 1983.

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Photo of Mr John Fraser Mr John Fraser , Norwood 5:11 pm, 26th July 1983

Does the right hon. Gentleman appreciate the distress that is being caused? Within the housing benefit system, which is in chaos, there are old age pensioners who are starving and distressed because they have been waiting for months for their benefit. On the other hand, the right hon. Gentleman penalises a local authority that takes on the necessary staff for a demand-led service to carry out a function that central Government have handed to local government.