If we examine the number of people in the age group who qualify for degrees, we find that Britain has one of the best records in Europe. By measuring the degrees given by age group, one finds that Britain performs strongly — better than Germany and about the same as France. Britain's participation rate in full-time degree courses has improved quite markedly since we took office — from 12·4 to 13·2 per cent. [Interruption.] Scottish students come to English universities and English students go to Scottish universities. The hon. Gentleman knows that the Scottish universties come under the University Grants Committee.