Crown Courts (Trials)

Oral Answers to Questions — Attorney-General – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 18th April 1983.

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Photo of Mr Ivan Lawrence Mr Ivan Lawrence , Burton 12:00 am, 18th April 1983

asked the Attorney -General whether there has been any reduction in the length of the waiting time before cases are brought to trial in the Crown courts since May 1979; and if he will make a statement.

Photo of Mr Michael Havers Mr Michael Havers , Wimbledon

The average waiting time for a Crown court trial has been reduced by about 15 per cent. since May 1979 despite a 33 per cent. increase in the number of cases. However, the enormous increase in work load in the past year has meant that in the immediate future equivalent reductions cannot be expected.

Photo of Mr Ivan Lawrence Mr Ivan Lawrence , Burton

Does that not represent a positive achievement by this Government in the reduction of crime, not only because shorter delays mean less injustice to victims and those who are wrongly accused, but because if trials take place earlier the memories of witnesses are better, more of the guilty are convicted and there is the deterrent effect of being caught and brought to trial?

Photo of Mr Michael Havers Mr Michael Havers , Wimbledon

I wish that I could agree that the figures reveal a reduction in crime, but the true figures are that in 1979 committals for trial were 50,500 and in 1982, 67,000. In 1982, committals increased by over 7,000, or 12–5 per cent., compared with 1981. By constantly increasing the number of Crown courts, and improving their efficiency, we have managed not only to keep up with the ever-increasing load but to reduce the waiting time.

Photo of Mr Alex Lyon Mr Alex Lyon , City of York

Has the Attorney-General seen the figures produced by the Select Committee in its report on prisons, which show that the average length of time for a trial on the north-east circuit was at least one third of what it was in London? Does he agree that a reason for the delay in London is the practice of reciting every part of the brief to prosecution witnesses because judges have insisted over the years that every item should be put to each prosecution witness?

Photo of Mr Michael Havers Mr Michael Havers , Wimbledon

That has not been my experience. In most of the cases in the last 10 years at the Central Criminal Court in which I have been involved, in either a prosecuting or defending role, the opening has included only those matters that should be put before the jury in the course of the opening. There has been a considerable improvement in judges' attitudes to counsel who put the same question a number of times. Earlier perhaps nothing was done, but they are now asked to move on to their next question.

I do not know the figures for delays in London compared with elsewhere, but I accept the figures given by the hon. Member for York (Mr. Lyon). They disclose, as one often suspects, that his part of the world is efficient in terms of criminal justice.

Photo of Mr Percy Grieve Mr Percy Grieve , Solihull

Does my right hon. and learned Friend agree that the reduction has taken place in both the provinces and London and that the London courts are to be congratulated on their great efforts in the last two years, by prolonging the hours of sitting, to catch up with the backlog?

Photo of Mr Michael Havers Mr Michael Havers , Wimbledon

That is demonstrated by the average waiting time being reduced in the last three years from over 30 weeks to not quite 23 weeks.

Photo of Mr Donald Anderson Mr Donald Anderson Chair, Welsh Affairs Committee, Chair, Welsh Affairs Committee, Shadow Spokesperson (Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs)

Do not the figures mask certain regional variations, as was suggested by my hon. Friend the Member for York (Mr. Lyon)?

Photo of Mr Michael Havers Mr Michael Havers , Wimbledon

The waiting period in London is greater than in the provinces because there are more committals in the Greater London area than in the provinces. The period has been much reduced in both London and the provinces.