New Clause 15

– in the House of Commons at 9:30 pm on 11th February 1980.

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GOVERNMENT FUNDING

  1. '(1) For the put-pose of promoting the design, development or production of civil aircraft, the Secretary of State with the consent of the Treasury may at any time after the appointed date make payments in accordance with this section to the successor company or any of its wholly owned subsidiaries.
  2. (2) No payments may be made under this section unless—
    1. (a) the Secretary of State is of opinion that it is in the national interest that payments on the scale and in the way proposed should be made; and
    2. (b) it appears to the Secretary of State that, if the payments are not made, it would be inconsistent with the objects of the com-

pany imposed by or under section 1(2)(b) of this Act for the company or any of its wholly owned subsidiaries to undertake the design, development or production in question.

  1. (3) Payments under this section may be made on any terms and conditions, and, without prejudice to the generality of this subsection, by way of fees or by any description of investment or lending or by the making of grants.
  2. (4) There shall be defrayed out of moneys provided by Parliament any sums required by the Secretary of State for making payments under this section and any sums received by the Secretary of State in pursuance of the terms and conditions on which payments are made under this section shall be paid into the Consolidated Fund.'.—[Mr. Les Huckfield.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:—

The House divided: Ayes 238, Noes 304.

Division No. 169]AYES[9.52 pm
Abse, LeoCrowther, J. S.Foulkes, George
Adama, AllenCryer, BobFraser, John (Lambeth, Norwood)
Allaun, FrankCunliffe, LawrenceFreeson Rt Hon Reginald
Archer, Rt Hon PeterCunningham, George (Islington S)Garrett, John (Norwich S)
Armstrong, Rt Hon ErnestCunningham, Dr John (Whitehaven)Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend)
Ashley, Rt Hon JackDalyell, TarnGeorge, Bruce
Ashton, JoeDavidson, ArthurGilbert, Rt Hon Dr John
Atkinson, Norman (H'gey, Tott'ham)Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli)Golding, John
Barnett, Guy (Greenwich)Davies, Ifor (Gower)Gourlay, Harry
Barnett, Rt Hon Joel (Heywood)Davis, Terry (B'rm'ham, Stechford)Grant, George (Morpeth)
Beith, A. J.Deakins, EricGrant, John (Islington C)
Benn, Rt Hon Anthony WedgwoodDean, Joseph (Leeds West)Hamilton, James (Bothwell)
Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N)Dempsey, JamesHamilton, W. W. (Central Fife)
Bidwell, SydneyDewar, DonaldHarrison, Rt Hon Walter
Booth, Rt Hon AlbertDixon, DonaldHart, Rt Hon Dame Judith
Boothroyd, Miss BettyDobson, FrankHattersley, Rt Hon Roy
Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur (M'brough)Dormand, JackHaynes, Frank
Bradley, TomDouglas, DickHealey, Rt Hon Denis
Bray, Dr JeremyDubs, AlfredHeffer, Eric S.
Brown, Hugh D. (Provan)Duffy, A. E. P.Hogg, Norman (E Dunbartonshire)
Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle W)Dunn, James A. (Liverpool, Kirkdale)Holland, Stuart (L'beth, Vauxhail)
Brown, Ronald W. (Hackney S)Dunnett, JackHome Robertson, John
Brown, Ron (Edinburgh, Leith)Eadie, AlexHomewood, William
Buchan, NormanEastham, KenHooley, Frank
Callaghan, Rt Hon J. (Cardiff SE)Edwards, Robert (Wolv SE)Horam, John
Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P)Ellis, Raymond (NE Derbyshire)Howell, Rt Hon Denis (B'ham, Sm H)
Campbell, IanEllis, Tom (Wrexham)Huckfield, Les
Canavan, DennisEnglish, MichaelHughes, Mark (Durham)
Cant, R. B.Ennals, Rt Hon DavidHughes, Robert (Aberdeen North)
Carmichael, NeilEvans, Ioan (Aberdare)Hughes Roy (Newport)
Carter-Jones, LewisEvans, John (Newton)Janner, Hon Greville
Cartwright, JohnEwing, HarryJay, Rt Hon Douglas
Clark, Dr David (South Shields)Faulds AndrewJohnson, Walter (Derby South)
Cocks, Rt Hon Michael (Bristol S)Field, FrankJones, Rt Hon Alec (Rhondda)
Cohen, StanleyFitch, AlanJones, Barry (East Flint)
Concannon, Rt Hon J. D.Flannery, MartinJones, Dan (Burnley)
Conlan, BernardFlotcher, Ted (Darlington)Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
Cook, Robin F.Foot, Rt Hon MichaelKerr, Russell
Cowans, HarryForrester, JohnKilroy-Silk, Robert
Craigen, J. M. (Glasgow, Maryhill)Foster, DerekKinnock, Neil
Lambie, DavidMorton, GeorgeSpearing, Nigel
Lamborn, HarryMoyle, Rt Hon RolandSpriggs, Leslie
Lamond, JamesNewens, StanleySlallard, A. W.
Leighton, RonaldOakes, Rt Hon GordonStoddart, David
Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough)Ogden, EricStott, Roger
Lewis, Arthur (Newham North West)O'Halloran, MichaelStrang, Gavin
Lewis, Ron (Carlisle)O'Neill, MartinStraw, Jack
Litherland, RobertOrme, Rt Hon StanleySummersklll, Hon Dr Shirley
Lofthouse, GeoffreyOwen, Rt Hon Dr DavidTaylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton West)
Lyon, Alexander (York)Palmer, ArthurThomas, Dafydd (Merioneth)
Lyons, Edward (Bradford West)Park, GeorgeThomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery)
Mabon, Rt Hon Dr J. DicksonParker, JohnThomas, Mike (Newcastle East)
McDonald, Dr OonaghPavitt, LaurieThorne, Stan (Preston South)
McElhone, FrankPendry, TomTilley, John
McKay, Allen (Penistone)Powell, Raymond (Ogmore)Tinn, James
McKelvey, WilliamPrescott, JohnTorney, Tom
MacKenzie, Rt Hon GregorPrice, Christopher (Lewisham West)Urwin, Rt Hon Tom
Maclennan, RobertRace, RegVarley, Rt Hon Eric G.
McMahon, AndrewRees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds South)Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne Valley)
Macmillan, Rt Hon M. (Farnham)Richardson, JoWalker, Rt Hon Harold (Doncaster)
McNally, ThomasRoberts, Allan (Bootle)Watkins, David
McNamara, KevinRoberts, Gwilym (Cannock)Weetch, Ken
McWilliam, JohnRobertson, GeorgeWelsh, Michael
Magee, BryanRobinson, Geoffrey (Coventry NW)White, Frank R. (Bury & Radcliffe)
Marks, KennethRodgers, Rt Hon WilliamWhite, James (Glasgow, Pollok)
Marshall, David (Gl'sgow, Shettles'n)Rooker, J. W.Whitehead, Phillip
Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole)Roper, JohnWhitlock, William
Martin, Michael (Gl'gow, Springb'rn)Ross, Ernest (Dundee West)Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W)
Mason, Rt Hon RoyRowlands, TedWilliams, Sir Thomas (Warrington)
Maxton, JohnRyman, JohnWilson, Gordon (Dundee East)
Maynard, Miss JoanSandelson, NevilleWilson, Rt Hon Sir Harold (Huyton)
Meacher, MichaelSever, JohnWilson, William (Coventry SE)
Mellish, Rt Hon RobertSheerman, BarryWinnick, David
Mikardo, IanSheldon, Rt Hon Robert (A'ton-u-L)Woodall, Alec
Millan, Rt Hon BruceShort, Mrs RenéeWrigglesworth, Ian
Miller, Dr M. S. (East Kilbride)Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford)Young, David (Bolton East)
Mitchell, Austin (Grimsby)Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich)
Mitchell, R. C. (Soton, Itchen)Silverman, JuliusTELLERS FOR THE. AYES
Morris, Rt Hon Alfred (Wythenshawe)Smith, Rt Hon J. (North Lanarkshire)Mr. Ted Graham and
Morris, Rt Hon Charles (Openshaw)Snape, Peter Mr. Hugh McCartney
Morris, Rt Hon John (Aberavon)Soley, Clive
NOES
Adley, RobertBuck, AntonyFell, Anthony
Aitken, JonathanBudgen, NickFenner, Mrs Peggy
Alexander, RichardBulmer, EsmondFisher, Sir Nigel
Ancram, MichaelBurden, F. A.Fletcher, Alexander (Edinburgh N)
Arnold, TomButcher, JohnFletcher-Cooke, Charles
Aspinwall, JackButler, Hon AdamFookes, Miss Janet
Atkins, Robert (Preston North)Cadbury, JocelynFor man, Nigel
Atkinson, David (B'mouth, East)Carlisle, John (Luton West)Fowler, Rt Hon Norman
Baker, Nicholas (North Dorset)Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln)Fox, Marcus
Banks, RobertCarlisle, Rt Hon Mark (Runcorn)Fraser, Rt Hon H. (Stafford & St)
Beaumont-Dark, AnthonyChalker, Mrs LyndaFraser, Peter (South Angus)
Bell, Sir RonaldChannon, PaulFry, Peter
Bendall, VivianChapman, SydneyGalbraith, Hon T. G. D.
Benyon, Thomas (Abingdon)Clark, Hon Alan (Plymouth, Sutton)Gardiner George (Reigate)
Benyon, W. (Buckingham)Clark, Sir William (Croydon South)Gardner, Edward (South Fylde)
Berry, Hon AnthonyClarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe)Garel-Jones, Tristan
Best, KeithCockeram, EricGilmour, Rt Hon Sir Ian
Bevan, David GilroyColvin, MichaelGlyn, Dr Alan
Biffen, Rt Hon JohnCormack, PatrickGoodlad, Alastair
Biggs-Davison, JohnCorrie, JohnGorst, John
Blackburn, JohnCostain, A. P.Gow, Ian
Blaker, PeterCranborne, ViscountGower, Sir Raymond
Body, RichardCritchley, JulianGrant, Anthony (Harrow C)
Bonsor, Sir NicholasCrouch, DavidGray, Hamish
Boscawen, Hon RobertDean, Paul (North Somerset)Greenway, Harry
Bottomley, Peter (Woolwich West)Dickens, GeoffreyGrieve, Percy
Bowden, AndrewDorrell, StephenGriffiths, Eldon (Bury St Edmunds)
Boyson, Dr RhodesDouglas-Hamilton, Lord JamesGriffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N)
Bradford, Rev. R.Dover, DenshoreGrist, Ian
Braine, Sir Bernarddu Cann, Rt Hon EdwardGrylls, Michael
Bright, GrahamDunn, Robert (Dartford)Guramer, John Selwyn
Brinton, TimDurant, TonyHamilton, Hon Archie (Eps'm&Ew'll)
Brittan, LeonDykes, HughHamilton, Michael (Salisbury)
Brocklebank-Fowler, ChristopherEden, Rt Hon Sir JohnHampson, Dr Keith
Brooke,Hon PeterEggar, TimothyHannam, John
Brotherton, MichaelElliott, Sir WilliamHaselhurst, Alan
Brown, Michael (Brigg & Sc'thorpe)Emery, PeterHastings, Stephen
Browne, John (Winchester)Fairbairn, NicholasHavers, Rt Hon Sir Michael
Bruce-Gardyne, JohnFairgrieve, RussellHawksley, Warren
Bryan, Sir PaulFaith, Mrs SheilaHayhoe, Barney
Buchanan-Smith, Hon AlickFarr, JohnHeddle, John
Henderson, BarryMills, Peter (West Devon)Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge-Br'hills)
Haseltine, Rt Hon MichaelMiscampbell, NormanShersby, Michael
Hicks, RobertMitchell, David (Basingstoke)Silvester, Fred
Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L.Moate, RogerSims, Roger
Hill, JamesMolyneaux, JamesSkeet, T. H. H.
Hogg, Hon Douglas (Grantham)Monro, HectorSmith, Dudley (War. and Leam'ton)
Holland, Philip (Carlton)Montgomery, FergusSpeed, Keith
Hooson, TomMoore, JohnSpeller, Tony
Hordern, PeterMorgan, GeraintSpence, John
Howell, Rt Hon David (Guildlord)Morris, Michael (Northampton, Sth)Spicer, Jim (West Dorset)
Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk)Morrison, Hon Charles (Devizes)Spicer, Michael (S Worcestershire)
Hunt, David (Wirral)Morrison, Hon Peter (City of Chester)Squire, Robin
Hunt, John (Ravensboume)Mudd, DavidStainton, Keith
Hurd, Hon DouglasMurphy, ChristopherStanbrook, Ivor
Irvine, Charles (Cheltenham)Myles, DavidStanley, John
Jenkin, Rt Hon PatrickNeale, GerrardSteen, Anthony
Johnson Smith, GeoffreyNeedham, RichardStevens, Martin
Jopling, Rt Hon MichaelNelson, AnthonyStewart, Ian (Hitchin)
Kershaw, AnthonyNeubert, MichaelStewart, John (East Renfrewshire)
King, Rt Hon TomNewton, TonyStokes, John
Kitson, Sir TimothyNott, Rt Hon JohnStradling Thomas, J.
Knight, Mrs JillOnslow, CranleyTapsell, peter
Knox, DavidOsborn, JohnTaylor, Robert (Croydon NW)
Lamont,NormanPage, Rt Hon Sir R. GrahamTemple-Morris, Peter
Lang, IanPage, Richard (SW Hertfordshire)Thatcher, Rt Hon Mrs Margaret
Langford-Holt, Sir JohnParkinson, CecilThomas, Rt Hon Peter (Hendon S)
Latham, MichaelParris, MatthewThompson, Donald
Lawrence, IvanPatten, Christopher (Bath)Thornton, Malcolm
Lawson, NigelPatten, John (Oxford)Townend, John (Bridlington)
Lee, JohnPattie, GeoffreyTownsend, Cyril D. (Bexleyheath)
Le Merchant, SpencerPawsey, JamesTrippier, David
Lennox-Boyd, Kon MarkPercival, Sir IanTrotter, Neville
Lester, Jim (Beeston)Peyton, Rt Hon JohnVaughan, Dr Gerard
Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland)Pink, R. BonnerViggers, Peter
Lloyd, Ian (Havant & Waterloo)Pollock, AlexanderWaddington, David
Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)Porter, GeorgeWakeham, John
Loveridge, JohnPowell, Rt Hon J. Enoch (S Down)Waldegrave, Kon William
Luce, RichardPrice, David (Eastleigh)Walker, Rt Hon Peter (Worcester)
Lyell, NicholasPrior, Rt Hon JamesWalker, Bill (Perth & E Perthshire)
McCrindle, RobertProctor, K. HarveyWalker-Smith, Rt Hon Sir Derek
Macfarlane, NeilPym, Rt Hon FrancisWalters, Dennis
MacKay, John (Argyll)Raison, TimothyWard, John
McNair-Wilson, Michael (Newbury)Rathbone, TimWarren, Kenneth
McNair-Wilson, Patrick (New Forest)Rees, Peter (Dover and Deal)Watson, John
McOuarrie, AlbertRees-Davies, W. R.Wells, John (Maidstone)
Madel, DavidRenton, TimWells, Bowen (Hert'rd & Stev'nage)
Major, JohnRhodes James, RobertWheeler, John
Marland, PaulRidley, Hon NicholasWhitelaw, Rt Hon William
Marlow, TonyRidsdale, JulianWhitney, Raymond
Marshall, Michael (Arundel)Rifkind, MalcolmWickenden, Keith
Marten, Neil (Banbury)Roberts, Wyn (Conway)Wiggin, Jerry
Mates, MichaelRoss, Wm. (Londonderry)Wilkinson, John
Mather, CarolRossi, HughWilliams, Delwyn (Montgomery)
Maude, Rt Hon AngusRost, PeterWinterton, Nicholas
Mawby, RayRoyle, Sir AnthonyWolfson, Mark
Mawhinney, Dr BrianSainsbury, Hon TimothyYoung, Sir George (Acton)
Maxwell-Hyslop, RobinSt. John Stevas, Rt Hon NormanYounger, Rt Hon George
Mayhew, PatrickScott, Nicholas
Mellor, DavidShaw, Giles (Pudsey)TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Meyer, Sir AnthonyShaw, Michael (Scarborough) Mr. John MacGregor and
Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove & Redditch)Shelton, William (Streatham)Mr. John Cope.
Mills, Iain (Meriden)Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)

Question accordingly negatived.

It being after Ten o'clock further consideration of the Bill stood adjourned.

Ordered,

That, at this day's sitting, the British Aerospace Bill may be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour.—[Mr. Waddington.]

Bill, as amended (in the Standing Committee), again considered.