Combined Heal and Power Scheme

Oral Answers to Questions — Energy – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 11th February 1980.

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Photo of Mr Nigel Spearing Mr Nigel Spearing , Newham South 12:00 am, 11th February 1980

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when he expects to make an announcement concerning the implementation of the Marshall report on schemes for combined heat and power.

Photo of Mr John Moore Mr John Moore , Croydon Central

As I said on 14 January, the Government are carefully considering the issues raised in the Marshall report, but expect to be able to make an announcement shortly.

Photo of Mr Nigel Spearing Mr Nigel Spearing , Newham South

Will that announcement at least agree in principle that large quantities of energy can be saved by that method? Further, will it pay particular attention to the capital cost of laying hot mains, which is a point at issue?

Photo of Mr John Moore Mr John Moore , Croydon Central

The Marshall report clearly shows that CHP can save energy. When we first published the report I said that there were many other questions, and capital cost in urban areas is clearly crucial.

Photo of Mr Peter Rost Mr Peter Rost , Derbyshire South East

Does my hon. Friend agree that it is disappointing that the Department of Energy forecast that heat saved from power stations by the year 2000 will be only 2½million tons coal equivalent, bearing in mind that the amount of heat loss from power stations is between 60 million and 70 million tons coal equivalent, and that the Marshall report states that 15 million tons could be saved by the year 2000?

Photo of Mr John Moore Mr John Moore , Croydon Central

I approach all forecasts to the year 2000, including our own, with a degree of humility. There is a major difference between recognising the totality of potential energy saving and that which can be saved economically. We should wait just a little longer for the final report.

Photo of Mr Frank Hooley Mr Frank Hooley , Sheffield, Heeley

Does the Minister agree that, as a priority, we should use the enormous quantity of heat that is going to waste rather than create new capacity for electrical generation, when we already have a surplus?

Photo of Mr John Moore Mr John Moore , Croydon Central

As I said, there are many other considerations beyond the pure apparent saving in energy, such as technology and institutional planning. Those questions should be answered fully before we proceed in that direction.

Photo of Mr Nigel Forman Mr Nigel Forman , Sutton Carshalton

Does my hon. Friend agree that it is reassuring that British industry has extensive and satisfactory experience of CHP? Will it be possible for the Government to get EEC funding or support for our efforts with CHP?

Photo of Mr John Moore Mr John Moore , Croydon Central

I am glad that my hon. Friend drew attention to our experience. About 15 per cent. of privately generated industrial electricity usage comes essentially from CHP. The background of involvement in the industrial sector is substantial. All financial avenues must be examined when we get down to specific proposals.