My right hon. and noble Friend Lord Peart, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection, and I met the National Staff Side this morning to open substantive negotiations. We told it that the Goverment would implement the pay research settlement being negotiated between the two sides and would be prepared to do so in two stages. The offer of a first stage of 7 per cent. would be payable from 1 April 1979, and the final from 1 April 1980. The full pay research rates to be paid in the second stage would be used for pensions purposes from 1 April 1979. The Government stand ready to continue the negotiations at any time.