Loch Ness (Wild Life)

Oral Answers to Questions — European Community – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 21st January 1976.

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Photo of Mr Toby Jessel Mr Toby Jessel , Twickenham 12:00 am, 21st January 1976

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will take steps to protect wild life in Loch Ness.

Photo of Mr William Ross Mr William Ross , Kilmarnock

If there is evidence establishing that there is wild life in Loch Ness in need of protection, I shall carefully consider making use of powers available to me to provide the protection required.

Photo of Mr Toby Jessel Mr Toby Jessel , Twickenham

Has the Secretary of State received any report about the three-hour seminar that took place in this building last month when substantial evidence of great scientific interest was given concerning the existence of a large animal in Loch Ness? Does the right hon. Gentleman accept that the Loch Ness monster is in need of protection, because it is believed that it must feed on salmon which are prolific in Loch Ness and there may be commercial interests also seeking salmon that could jeopardise the Loch Ness monster?

Photo of Mr William Ross Mr William Ross , Kilmarnock

The hon. Gentleman asked whether I had had a report of that seminar. My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State who is responsible for agricultural and other matters in the Scottish Office attended the seminar. My hon. Friend was impressed, but I do not think that he was convinced. I believe that we should all have open minds in this matter. [Laughter.] If there were sufficient evidence available, I am sure that all those hon. Members who are now laughing would now be on their feet demanding that I should take steps to give protection. We possess certain powers and, if the existence of the monster is proved, we shall use them.

Photo of Mr David James Mr David James , North Dorset

May I first thank the Under-Secretary of State for Scotland for attending the seminar, which I organised? Is he aware that the visual evidence is at least as strong at Loch Morar and Loch Lochy as at Loch Ness, and only marginally less so in regard to Loch Shiel and Loch Oich? As one might be dealing with a species that is declining in numbers and that could even become extinct, would it not be better to play safe rather than to take risks and for the Secretary of State, without prejudice, now to extend protection to that species, which has now been designated "nessiteras rhombopteryx"?

Photo of Mr William Ross Mr William Ross , Kilmarnock

I believe that any action at the present time would be precipitate. I suggest that the best thing that can happen is for somebody to take a look at what is happening in the lakes in the Lake District to see whether there is any other life there.

Photo of Dennis Skinner Dennis Skinner , Bolsover

Will my right hon. Friend comment on the widely-held belief that the SNP, as with all things Scottish, has taken out a patent on the monster?

Photo of Mr William Ross Mr William Ross , Kilmarnock

So far as I know, that is not exactly true. I would point out that the two hon. Members who took the trouble to organise the seminar were Members with English constituencies.

Photo of Mr Douglas Henderson Mr Douglas Henderson , Aberdeenshire East

Will the right hon. Gentleman ensure that any additional powers are extended to cover Scottish Conservatives who, as a species, are disappearing quite as fast as the monster?

Photo of Mr William Ross Mr William Ross , Kilmarnock

I agree that there is every evidence of that happening. The Loch Ness monster has looked after itself reasonably well for 700 million—or maybe 70 million—years, and I do not think that it is in immediate danger in the present Session.