In welcoming the recent State visit by the President of Tanzania, may I ask the Minister of State to say whether in discussing Rhodesia he impressed upon the President the importance that the British people attach to the rôle that he and the leaders of Zambia, Mozambique and Botswana are playing in influencing the Rhodesian African leaders towards a common approach to a peaceful settlement? Did the President accept that the alternative of violence would be catastrophic for African and European alike?
Yes, we had a very full discussion with President Nyerere about the situation in Rhodesia, and we exchanged views on our impressions. I think that there is a great deal of concern among the four Presidents about the split between the different ranks of the ANC, and I think that they would wish to use their influence to bring them together. I think that President Nyerere sees very clearly the dangers of an armed struggle, but certainly at the moment he is not optimistic about the prospects of a peaceful settlement through negotiation.