Why, in spite of my constant pleas, does the Minister only ever talk about tax when he talks about what the Government take from the British people? Why does he not refer to the unavoidable charges that have been imposed on the people by the Government? Is the Minister intending to mislead the House to the extent of saying that the amount coming in does not matter, that the only thing that matters is the rate? Is that not palpable nonsense? Is it not obvious that if the base figure rises and more money comes in the rate does not have to be so high?