When the debate finished tonight, it was, in the knowledge of a great many hon. Members, shortly before ten o'clock. I am quite prepared to accept that it is a difficult matter for the Chair.

I should like to get a Ruling from the Chair on whether one becomes out of order at 15 seconds before ten o'clock, because to my mind there was no doubt tonight that when my hon. Friend the Member for Hendon, North (Sir Ian Orr-Ewing) and my hon. and gallant Friend the Member for Lewes (Sir T. Beamish) rose, it was just that very slight fraction of time before ten o'clock. [Interruption]

Hon. Members opposite who complain about what I am saying often wish to make the same point to the Chair. It is a matter of importance in looking after the interest of back benchers at which precise moment I or some other hon. Member is out of order as the clock ticks away. Tonight, there was a slight difference of view, and a Ruling from the Chair would be helpful.