Fire Services (Reorganisation)

Oral Answers to Questions — Home Department – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 16th April 1970.

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Photo of Mr Frank Judd Mr Frank Judd , Portsmouth West 12:00 am, 16th April 1970

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement on his plans for reorganisation of the fire services in England and Wales.

Photo of Mr Merlyn Rees Mr Merlyn Rees , Leeds South

Not until my right hon. Friend has received and considered the report of the Departmental Committee on the Fire Service.

Photo of Mr Frank Judd Mr Frank Judd , Portsmouth West

Does my hon. Friend agree that there is considerable uncertainty about the future amongst men of all ranks in the fire services? In view of their devoted service and heavy responsibilities, may I ask my hon. Friend to do everything possible to encourage the speediest possible publication of the Holroyd Report and of the Government's proposals for action on it?

Photo of Mr Merlyn Rees Mr Merlyn Rees , Leeds South

I agree that there are devoted people in the fire services who, indeed, do not get enough praise. Publication of the Holroyd Report is not a matter over which my right hon. Friend has direct control, but we are hoping to receive it very soon.

Photo of Mr David Renton Mr David Renton , Huntingdonshire

Will the hon. Gentleman give an undertaking to the House that that report will be published as soon as possible after the Home Secretary has received it?

Photo of Mr Merlyn Rees Mr Merlyn Rees , Leeds South

I can give that undertaking. No one would be more pleased than my right hon. Friend to get this report, because we urgently want to look into the fire services.

Photo of Mr John Horner Mr John Horner , Oldbury and Halesowen

Is my hon. Friend aware that the Holroyd Committee has taken nearly as long to deal with this single service as the Royal Commission took to deal with the whole of local government in England? With direct fire losses now running at over £100 million a year, is it any wonder that firemen are questioning whether the Department is dealing with the matter with the urgency that it demands?

Photo of Mr Merlyn Rees Mr Merlyn Rees , Leeds South

When a Government Department and a right hon. Gentleman ask someone to produce a report, there is no direct control involved. I hope that my hon. Friend will take into account the fact that there most important matters to consider in the Fire Service and that there may be very good reasons why the report is taking so long.