Nothing I have proposed will deprive the people of Wales of their democratic rights, which will continue to be preserved through Parliamentary representation and through their elected local authorities. The new Welsh Council will have advisory, not executive, functions.
These bodies will continue to exercise their executive functions but will have the benefit of the advice of the Welsh Council, which will have representatives from all over Wales.
As the right hon. Gentleman knows, we on this side are opposed to the nominated Council he is setting up, but I want to make one point in connection with it. To make things clear, would not the Secretary of State consider changing the name and not continue to use the word "Council"? There have been so many different sorts of Welsh Councils in the last 15 years that people simply cannot understand them.
It is not the name that counts but the work such bodies do. I am surprised that the hon. Gentleman should say that his party is opposed to the nominated Council when his party supported one for over 13 years.
In view of the most humiliating rejection of an elected Council for Wales for reasons unconnected with the welfare of Wales, would not the Secretary of State agree that the whole proposal should be completely dropped and that we should now concentrate on getting at the earliest moment a legislature for Wales as a whole?