Fleet Air Arm (Aircraft Carriers)

Oral Answers to Questions — Ministry of Defence – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 24 November 1965.

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Photo of Mr Patrick Wall Mr Patrick Wall , Haltemprice 12:00, 24 November 1965

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the future of the Fleet Air Arm.

Photo of Mr Willie Hamilton Mr Willie Hamilton , Fife West

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether a decision has yet been reached on the building of a new aircraft carrier.

Photo of Mr William Hamling Mr William Hamling , Woolwich West

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what decision has now been taken on the purchase of aircraft carriers from the United States of America.

Photo of Mr Stanley McMaster Mr Stanley McMaster , Belfast East

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has reached a decision on the ordering of one or more new aircraft carriers; and if he will make a statement.

Photo of Sir Ronald Bell Sir Ronald Bell , Buckinghamshire South

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what decision he has reached about the future carrier force of the Royal Navy; and whether he will make a statement.

Photo of Mr Denis Healey Mr Denis Healey , Leeds East

I have nothing to add to the reply which I gave the hon. and gallant Member for Portsmouth, West (Brigadier Clarke) on 3rd November.

Photo of Mr Patrick Wall Mr Patrick Wall , Haltemprice

Does the right hon. Gentleman appreciate that the Fleet Air Arm enables Britain to exercise maritime strategy with maximum flexibility, and does he also appreciate that the morale of the Fleet Air Arm is being undermined by his delay in announcing the new aircraft carrier replacement programme?

Photo of Mr Denis Healey Mr Denis Healey , Leeds East

I recognise the great service which the Fleet Air Arm does for the nation, but I think that the whole House would wish us to consider the matter carefully in all its aspects before taking a decision which might commit us for several decades.

Photo of Mr Enoch Powell Mr Enoch Powell , Wolverhampton South West

Did the right hon. Gentleman authorise his hon. Friend the Minister of Defence for the Royal Navy to state last Friday that Her Majesty's Government are about to come to a decision on increasing Britain's carrier force, and if that is known to the right hon. Gentleman, why cannot the House be told the Government's decision?

Photo of Mr Denis Healey Mr Denis Healey , Leeds East

I think that the right hon. Gentleman, who is a considerable expert in academic English, will know perfectly well that the statement that the Government are about to come to a decision means that the Government have not yet taken a decision. When the Government have taken a decision, the right hon. Gentleman and those behind him will be told.

Photo of Mr Enoch Powell Mr Enoch Powell , Wolverhampton South West

If the decision has not been taken, how did the Minister of Defence for the Navy know that the decision would be about increasing the carrier strength?

Photo of Mr Denis Healey Mr Denis Healey , Leeds East

A decision on whether or not to increase the carrier force is also a decision on whether or not we do not increase it.

Photo of Mr Simon Digby Mr Simon Digby , West Dorset

During this prolonged period of uncertainty, can we at least be assured that design drawings are going on for the new carrier?

Photo of Mr Denis Healey Mr Denis Healey , Leeds East

Yes, Sir. The whole process which started with the belated decision of the last Government in 1963 to go for a new carrier has been proceeding without interruption ever since.