Orders of the Day — Schedule. — (Enactments Repealed.)

– in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 26th May 1965.

Alert me about debates like this

Question proposed, That this Schedule be the Schedule to the Bill.

Photo of Sir Rolf Williams Sir Rolf Williams , Exeter

On a point of order, Dr. King. Are we not to talk about Clause 2?

Photo of Sir Harry Hylton-Foster Sir Harry Hylton-Foster , Cities of London and Westminster

Clause 2 was taken earlier, apparently, in the absence of the hon. Gentleman.

Photo of Sir Rolf Williams Sir Rolf Williams , Exeter

I am sorry Dr. King. I am so tired.

Photo of Sir Ian Percival Sir Ian Percival , Southport

I should like to raise a point of principle on this Schedule while keeping in order and I invite your assistance, Dr. King, on this aspect of the matter—[Interruption.]

Photo of Sir Harry Hylton-Foster Sir Harry Hylton-Foster , Cities of London and Westminster

Order. Will hon. Members leave the Chamber quietly.

Photo of Sir Ian Percival Sir Ian Percival , Southport

As I took my ticket at the Underground station to come here this morning the gentleman in the queue behind me asked for two tickets for the Tower. I am bound to say that I felt

Division No. 135.]AYES[12.37 p.m.
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.)Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony WedgwoodCarlisle, Mark
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe)Berkeley, HumphryCarmichael, Neil
Armstrong, ErnestBiffen, JohnCastle, Rt. Hn. Barbara
Atkinson, NormanBlenkinsop, ArthurCraddock, George (Bradford, S.)
Bacon, Miss AliceBowden, Rt. Hn. H. W. (Lei[...]cs S.W.)Cullen, Mrs. Alice
Barnett, JoelBray, Dr. JeremyDarling, George
Bence, CyrilBrown, R. W. (Sho[...]reditch & Fbury)Davies, Harold (Leek)

inclined to change places with him even though he was going towards the dungeons. The reason for that feeling was the realisation that, after a mere four hours of sleep, I must now endeavour to make a contribution on the technical subject of this Schedule. Having been fortunate in catching your eye, Dr. King, I must now endeavour to keep in order to ensure that I do not end up in the Tower.

It has been said that even Schedules have principles and it is to the principle of this Bill that I wish to invite attention. I ask that someone should look at the Schedule again to make sure that the contents, the enactments repealed, are right. I invite someone—I do not know to whom to address my question, whether it should be to the Home Office or not—to look at the Schedule again between now and the Report stage to make sure that what is set out in it is necessary and accurate.

Question put, That this Schedule be the Schedule to the Bill:—

The Committee divided: Ayes 128, Noes 117.

Davies, Ifor (Gower)Irving, Sydney (Dartford)Rankin, John
de Frei[...]tas, Sir GeoffreyJackson, ColinRedhead, Edward
Dodds, NormanJay, Rt. Hn. DouglasReynolds, G. W.
Driberg, TomJenkins, Rt. Hn. Roy (Stechford)Rogers, George (Kensington, N.)
Duffy, Dr. A. E. P.Johnson Smlth, G. (East Grinstead)St. John-Stevas, Norman
Dunn, James A.Johnston, Russell (Inverness)Shinwell, Rt. Hn. E.
Edwards, Robert (Bilston)Jones,Rt.Hn.Sir Elwyn(W.Ham,S.)Shore, Peter (Stepney)
Evans, Albert (Islington, S.W.)Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham)Short,Rt.Hn.E.(N'c'tle-on-Tyne,C.)
Fletcher, Ted (Darlington)Jones, T. W. (Merloneth)Silkin, John (Deptford)
Floud, BernardKirk, PeterSilkin, S. C. (Camberwell, Dulwich)
Foot, Sir Dingle (Ipswich)Lawson, GeorgeSkeffington, Arthur
Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale)Lewis, Ron (Carlisle)Slater, Mrs. Harriet (Stoke, N.)
Foster, Sir JohnLipton, MarcusSmall, William
Freeson, ReginaldLubbock, EricSteel, David (Roxburgh)
Galpern, Sir MyerMabon, Dr. J. DicksonStones, William
Garrow, A.McBridge, NeilSwain, Thomas
Gourlay, HarryMackenzie, Gregor (Rutherglen)Swingler, Stephen
Gregory, ArnoldMackie, John (Enfield, E.)Taverne, Dick
Griffiths, David (Rother Valley)MacMillan, MalcolmTaylor, Bernard (Mansfield)
Grimond, Rt. Hn. J.Mahon, Simon (Bootle)Thomas, George (Cardl[...]ff, W.)
Hamilton, William (West Fife)Manuel, ArchieThomas, l[...]orwerth (Rhondda, W.)
Hamling, William (Woolwich, W.)Mapp, CharlesThornton, Ernest
Hannan, WilliamMikardo, lanTinn, James
Harper, JosephMilne, Edward (Blyth)Urwin, T. W.
Hart, Mrs. JudithMiscampbell, NormanWhite, Mrs. Eirene
Hazell, BertMonslow, WalterWhitlock, William
Heffer, Eric S.Mulley, Rt.Hn. Frederick(SheffieldPk)Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick
Henderson, Rt. Hn. ArthurO'Malley, BrianWilliams, Albert (Abertillery)
Herbison, Rt. Hn. MargaretOswald, ThomasWilliams, Mrs. Shirley (Hitchin)
Hobden, Dennis (Brighton, K'town.)Owen, WillWillis, George (Edinburgh, E.)
Houghton, Rt. Hn. DouglasPargiter, G. A.Wilson, William (Coventry, S.)
Hoy, JamesParkin, B. T.Woodburn, Rt. Hn. A.
Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire)Peart, Rt. Hn. FredZilliacus, K.
Hunter, Adam (Dunfermline)Pentland, Norman
Hynd, H. (Accrington)Popplewell, ErnestTELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Hynd, John (Attercliffe)Pursey, Cmdr. HarryMr. Richard Crawshaw and
Irvine, A. J. (Edge Hill)Randall, HarryMr. Stanley Orme.
NOES
Anstruther-Gray, Rt. Hn. Sir W.Goodhew, VictorNicholls, Sir Harmar
Batsford, BrianGower, RaymondNoble, Rt. Hn. Michael
Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay)Grant, AnthonyOrr-Ewing, Sir lan
Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gos & Fhm)Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds)Osborn, John (Hallam)
Berry, Hn. AnthonyHamilton, Marquess of (Fermanagh)Pickthorn, Rt. Hn. Sir Kenneth
Bessell, PeterHarris, Frederic (Croydon, N.W.)Pitt, Dame Edith
Blaker, PeterHarris, Reader (Heston)Pym, Francis
Bossom, Hn. CliveHarvey, Sir Arthur Vere (Macclesf 'd)Redmayne, Rt. Hn. Sir Martin
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. J.Harvey, John (Walthamstow, E.)Robson Brown, Sir William
Braine, BernardHarvie Anderson, MissScott-Hopkine, James
Brinton, Sir TattonHawkins, PaulSharples, Richard
Bromley-Davenport.Lt.-Col.SirWalterHay, JohnSinclair, Sir George
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath)Heath, Rt. Hn. EdwardSmith, Dudley (Br'ntf'd & Ch[...]iswick)
Bryan, PaulHendry, ForbesSmyth, Rt. Hn. Brig. Sir John
Buck, AntonyHiley, JosephStodart, Anthony
Buxton, RonaldHill, J. E. B. (S. Norfolk)Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir Malcolm
Chichester-Clark, R.Hirst, GeoffreyStudholme, Sir Henry
Clark, William (Nottingham, S.)Hopkins, AlanSummers, Sir Spencer
Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portamth, W.)Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye)Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)
Cooke, RobertJennings, J. C.Taylor, Edward M. (G'gow, Cathcart)
Cooper, A. E.Kaberry, Sir DonaldTaylor, Frank (Moss Side)
Costain, A. P.Kershaw, AnthonyTemple, John M.
Courtney, Cdr. AnthonyKilfedder, James A.Thompson, Sir Richard (Croydon, S.)
Cunningham, Sir KnoxKimball, MarcusThorneycroft, Rt. Hn. Peter
Curran, CharlesLagden, GodfreyTurton, Rt. Hn. R, H.
Dance, JamesLancaster, Col. C. G.Tweedsmuir[...], Lady
Davies, Dr. Wyndham (Perry Barr)Legge-Bourke, Sir HarryVaughan-Morgan, Rt. Hn. Sir John
Dean, PaulLongden, GilbertWalker, Peter (Worcester)
Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F.Lucas, Sir JocelynWard, Dame Irene
Dlgby, Simon WingfieldMcAdden, Sir StephenWeatherill, Bernard
Dodds-Parker, DouglasMacArthur, IanWebster, David
Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton)Mackenzie, Alasdair (Ross&Crom'ty)Whitelaw, William
Elliott, R. W.(N'c'tle-upon-Tyne,N.)McNair-Wilson, PatrickWills, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater)
Farr, JohnMaginn[...]ls, John E.Wllson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Fell, AnthonyMarten, NeilWolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Fraser, Ian (Plymouth, Sutton)Maude, AngusWood, Rt. Hn. Richard
Gibson-Watt, DavidMaydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C.Younger, Hn. George
Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife)Mitchell, David
Glover, Sir DouglasMonro, HectorTELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B.Mott-Radclyffe, Sir CharlesMr. Ian Percival and
Sir Rolf Dudley Williams.

Schedule agreed to.

Photo of Sir Harmar Nicholls Sir Harmar Nicholls , Peterborough

On a point of order, Dr. King. Is it possible to save you the distasteful task of reporting the Bill to the House? Is it possible for the Committee to say that you should not report it? If that is possible, I should like to say, "No" to your Question.

Photo of Sir Harry Hylton-Foster Sir Harry Hylton-Foster , Cities of London and Westminster

The hon. Member for Peterborough (Sir Harmar Nicholls) was interrupting me in the process of putting the Question—

Photo of Sir Kenneth Pickthorn Sir Kenneth Pickthorn , Carlton

On a point of order. I do not know whether you are in a deprecatory mood this morning, Dr. King, but I believe that it is not out of order to discuss this Question, although I believe that the Chair sometimes deprecates such discussion. I should dislike to be deprecated by the Chair, but—

Photo of Sir Harry Hylton-Foster Sir Harry Hylton-Foster , Cities of London and Westminster

I will interrupt the right hon. Member for Carlton (Sir K. Pickthorn) to assure him that the Chair is in a very deprecatory mood. The right hon. Gentleman was putting an observation to the Chair; I am answering it at the moment. The position is that the right hon. Gentleman is quite right. It is possible to debate this Question, but if he turns up Erskine May he will find that it rules that this Motion is now taken formally and that the Chair is in the habit of deprecating any debate on it. As I said, I therefore deprecate any attempt to debate it.

Photo of Sir Kenneth Pickthorn Sir Kenneth Pickthorn , Carlton

With respect, I do not believe that you have the words quite exact, Dr. King, but I do not rest myself on that. Of course, you are correct in effect, but I want to submit to you that surely what we are now doing is something which has never been done before. The House has never reported a Bill in the condition in which this Bill is and after the procedure which this Bill has been through. It has never happened before—a Bill that is neither Private Member's nor Government's, but both; no responsible sponsor present nor a Minister present on a Bill which had ceased to be a Bill but had been made into a nonsense.

This is the first time that there has been a Private Member's Bill debated and the Committee stage taken at a time when it is known that Government supporters will all be present, Whips on. [HON. MEMBERS: "No."] I will listen to the word "No" and I hope to have nothing else to listen to from any hon. Gentleman who voted as against the desire of those who manage his party.

12.45 p.m.

Photo of Mr Thomas Swain Mr Thomas Swain , North East Derbyshire

If my memory serves me right, the Government won the election with a majority of four out of 640 hon. Members. Only 128 went through the Lobby of the Government supporters this morning. How can the right hon. Gentleman claim that all the Government supporters are here on a Wednesday morning?

Photo of Sir Kenneth Pickthorn Sir Kenneth Pickthorn , Carlton

I deprecate that argument. I do not want to say any more—

Photo of Mr Eric Lubbock Mr Eric Lubbock , Orpington

On a point of order. Is the right hon. Member for Carlton (Sir K. Pickthorn) speaking to the Question that you report the Bill, or is he still on the point of order?

Photo of Sir Harry Hylton-Foster Sir Harry Hylton-Foster , Cities of London and Westminster

The hon. Member for Orpington (Mr. Lubbock) asked me what the position was. I was putting the Question, That I do report the Bill, as amended, to the House. I pointed out that I deprecate any discussion on this. In spite of that, the right hon. Member for Carlton is discussing it. This is the factual position.

Photo of Sir Kenneth Pickthorn Sir Kenneth Pickthorn , Carlton

I have on all earlier occasions—

Photo of Dr Jeremy Bray Dr Jeremy Bray , Middlesbrough West

On a point of order, Dr. King. Did you, in fact, complete the process of putting the Question to the Committee, or were you interrupted in the course of so doing?

Photo of Sir Harry Hylton-Foster Sir Harry Hylton-Foster , Cities of London and Westminster

My recollection is clear that I was putting the Question to the Committee and that the hon. Member for Carlton (Sir K. Pickthorn) is in the process of doing something which the Chair deprecates.

Photo of Sir Kenneth Pickthorn Sir Kenneth Pickthorn , Carlton

I am very sorry to do something which the Chair deprecates. I have always avoided doing so before. This is an unique occasion. I wish to make quite clear that never before has a Committee reported progress on a Bill in the conditions and after the procedure which we have now arrived at.

Division No. 136.]AYES[12.51 p.m.
Albu AustenHamling, William (Woolwich, W.)O'Malley, Brian
Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash)Hannan, WilliamOswald, Thomas
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.)Harper, JosephOwen, Will
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe)Hart, Mrs. JudithPargiter, G. A.
Armstrong, ErnestHazell, BertParkin, B. T.
Atkinson, NormanHeffer, Eric S.Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred
Bacon, Miss AliceHenderson, Rt. Hn. ArthurPentland, Norman
Barnett, JoelHerbison, Rt. Hn. MargaretPopplewell, Ernest
Bence, CyrilHobden, Dennis (Brighton, K'town.)Probert, Arthur
Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony WedgwoodHoughton, Rt. Hn. DouglasPursey, Cmdr. Harry
Berkeley, HumphryHoy, JamesRandall, Harry
Blenkinsop, ArthurHughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire)Rankin, John
Bowden, Rt. Hn. H. W. (Leics S.W.)Hunter, Adam (Dunfermline)Reynolds, G. W.
Bray, Dr. JeremyHynd, H. (Accrington)Rogers, George (Kensington, N.)
Brown, R. W. (Shoreditch & Fbury)Hynd, John (Attercliffe)St. John-Stevas, Norman
Carlisle, MarkIrvine, A. J. (Edge Hill)Shinwell, Rt. Hn. E.
Carmichael, NeilIrving, Sydney (Dartford)Shore, Peter (Stepney)
Castle, Rt. Hn. BarbaraJackson, ColinShort,Rt.Hn.E.(N'c'tle-on-Tyne,C.)
Craddock, George (Bradford, S.)Jay, Rt. Hn. DouglasSilkin, John (Deptford)
Cullen, Mrs. AliceJenkins, Rt. Hn. Roy (Stechford)Silkin, S. C. (Camberwell, Dulwich)
Darling, GeorgeJohnston, Russell (Inverness)Skeffington, Arthur
Davies, Harold (Leek)Jones,Rt.Hn.Sir Elwyn(W.Ham,S.)Slater, Mrs. Harriet (Stoke, N.)
Davies, Ifor (Gower)Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham)Steel, David (Roxburgh)
de Freitas, Sir GeoffreyJopling, MichaelSwain, Thomas
Diamond, JohnKenyon, CliffordSwingler, Stephen
Dodds, NormanKirk, PeterTaverne, Dick
Driberg, TomLawson, GeorgeTaylor, Bernard (Mansfield)
Duffy, Dr. A. E. P.Lewis, Ron (Carlisle)Thomas, George (Cardiff, W.)
Dunn, James A.Lipton, MarcusThornton, Ernest
Edwards, Robert (Bilston)Lubbock, EricTinn, James
Evans, Albert (Islington, S.W.)Mabon, Dr. J. DicksonUrwin, T. W.
Fletcher, Ted (Darlington)McBride, NeilWhite, Mrs. Eirene
Floud, BernardMackenzie, Gregor (Rutherglen)Whitlock, William
Foot, Sir Dingle (Ipswich)Mackie, John (Enfield, E.)Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick
Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale)MacMillan, MalcolmWilliams, Albert (Abertillery)
Freeson, ReginaldMahon, Simon (Bootle)Williams, Mrs. Shirley (H[...]tchin)
Galpern, Sir MyerMapp, CharlesWillis, George (Edinburgh, E.)
Garrow, A.Milne, Edward (Blyth)Wilson, William (Coventry, S.)
Gourlay, HarryMiscampbell, NormanWoodburn, Rt. Hn. A.
Gregory, ArnoldMolloy, WilliamZilliacus, K,
Grimond, Rt. Hn. J.Monslow, Walter
Hamilton, William (West Fife)Mulley,Rt.Hn.Frederick(SheffieldPk)TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Mr. Richard Crawshaw and
Mr. Stanley Orme.
NOES
Allan, Robert (Paddington, S.)Corfield, F. V.Harvie Anderson, Miss
Anstruther-Gray, Rt. Hn. Sir W.Costain, A. P.Hawkins, Paul
Barlow, Sir JohnCourtney, Cdr. AnthonyHay, John
Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay)Cunningham, Sir KnoxHendry, Forbes
Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gos & Fhm)Curran, CharlesHiley, Joseph
Berry, Hn. AnthonyDavies, Dr. Wyndham (Perry Barr)Hill, J. E. B. (S. Norfolk)
Bessell, PeterDean, PaulHordern, Peter
Biggs-Davison, JohnDigby, Simon WingfieldHutchison, Michael Clark
Blaker, PeterElliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton)Jennings, J. C.
Bossom, Hn. CliveFarr, JohnKaberry, Sir Donald
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. J.Fell, AnthonyKershaw, Anthony
Braine, BernardFoster, Sir JohnKilfedder, James A.
Brlnton, Sir TattonGibson-Watt, DavidKimball, Marcus
Bromley-Davenport, Lt.-Col.Sir WalterGilmour, Sir John (East Fife)Lagden, Godfrey
Brooke, Rt. Hn. HenryGlover, Sir DouglasLegge-Bourke, Sir Harry
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath)Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B.Longden, Gilbert
Bruce-Gardyne, J.Goodhew, VictorLoveys, Walter H.
Bryan, PaulGower, RaymondMcAdden, Sir Stephen
Buck, AntonyGriffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds)Mackenzie, Alasdair (Ross&Crom'ty)
Chichester-Clark, R.Hall, John (Wycombe)McLaren, Martin
Clark, William (Nottingham, S.)Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.W.)McNair-Wilson, Patrick
Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portsmth, W.)Harris, Reader (Heston)Maginnis, John E.
Cooke, RobertHarrison, Brian (Maldon)Marten, Neil
Cooper. A. E.Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere (Macclesf'd)Maude, Angus

place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.

Question put, That the Question be now put:—

The Committee divided: Ayes 124, Noes 107.

Maydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C.Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir MalcolmWalder, David (High Peak)
Mitchell, DavidStudholme, Sir SpencerWard, Dame Irene
Monro, HectorSummers, Sir SpencerWeatherill, Bernard
Nicholls, Sir HarmarTaylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)Webster, David
Noble, Rt. Hn. MichaelTaylor, Edward M. (G'gow,Cathcart)Wills, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater)
Nugent, Rt. Hn. Sir RichardTemple, John M.Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Orr-Ewing, Sir IanThatcher, Mrs. MargaretWolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Osborn, John (Hallam)Thompson, Sir Richard (Croydon,S.)Woodhouse, Hon. Christopher
Pickthorn, Rt. Hn. Sir KennethThorneycroft, Rt. Hn. PeterYates, William (The Wrekin)
Pitt, Dame EdithTiley, Arthur (Bradford, W.)
Scott-Hopkins, JamesTilney, John (Wavertree)TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Smyth, Rt. Hn. Brig. Sir JohnTweedsmuir, LadyMr. Ian Percival and
Stodart, Anthonyvan Straubenzee, W. R.Sir Rolf Dudley Williams.

Question put accordingly, That the Chairman do report the Bill, as amended, to the House:—

Division No. 137.]AYES[12.59 p.m.
Albu, AustenHamling, William (Woolwich, W.)Oswald, Thomas
Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash)Hannan, WilliamOwen, Will
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.)Harper, JosephPargiter, G. A.
Allen, Scholefield (Crewe)Hart, Mrs. JudithParkin, B. T.
Armstrong, ErnestHazell, BertPeart, Rt. Hn. Fred
Atkinson, NormanHeffer, Eric S.Pentland, Norman
Bacon, Miss AliceHenderson, Rt. Hn. ArthurPopplewell, Ernest
Barnett, JoelHerbison, Rt. Hn. MargaretProbert, Arthur
Benee, CyrilHobden, Dennis (Brighton, K'town.)Pursey, Cmdr. Harry
Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony WedgwoodHoughton, Rt. Hn. DouglasRandall, Harry
Berkeley, HumphryHoy, JamesRankin, John
Biffen, JohnHughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire)Reynolds, G. W.
Binns, JohnHunter, Adam (Dunfermline)Rogers, George (Kensington, N.)
Blenkl[...]nsop, ArthurHynd, H. (Accrington)St. John-Stevas, Norman
Bowden, Rt. Hn. H. W. (Lelcs S.W.)Hynd, John (Attercliffe)Shinwell, Rt. Hn. E.
Bray, Dr. JeremyIrvine, A. J. (Edge Hill)Shore, Peter (Stepney)
Brown, R. W. (Shoreditch & Fbury)Irving, Sydney (Dartford)Short,Rt.Hn.E.(N'c'tle-on-Tyne,C.)
Carlisle, MarkJackson, ColinSilkin, John (Deptford)
Carmichael, NeilJay, Rt. Hn. DouglasSilkin, S. C. (Camberwell, Dulwich)
Castle, Rt. Hn. BarbaraJeger,Mrs.Lena(H'b'n&St.P'cras,S.)Skeffington, Arthur
Craddock, George (Bradford, S.)Jenkins, Rt. Hn. Roy (Stechford)Slater, Mrs. Harriet (Stoke, N.)
Cullen, Mrs. AliceJohnston, Russell (Inverness)Small, William
Dalkeith, Ear[...] ofJones.Rt.Hn.Sir Elwyn(W.Ham,S.)Steel, David (Roxburgh)
Darling, GeorgeJones, J. Idwal (Wrexham)Swain, Thomas
Davies, Harold (Leek)Jopling, MichaelSwingler, Stephen
Davies, Ifor (Gower)Kenyon, CliffordTaverne, Dick
de Freitas, Sir GeoffreyKirk, PeterTaylor, Bernard (Mansfield)
Diamond, JohnLawson, GeorgeThomas, George (Cardiff, W.)
Dodds, NormanLewis, Ron (Carlisle)Thomas, lorwerth (Rhondda, W.)
Driberg, TomLipton, MarcusThornton, Ernest
Duffy, Dr. A. E. P.Loveys, Walter H.Thorpe, Jeremy
Dunn, James A.Lubbock, EricTinn, James
Edwards, Robert (Bilston)Mabon, Dr. J. DicksonUrwin, T. W.
Evans, Albert (Islington, S.W.)McBride, NeilWalder, David (High Peak)
Fletcher, Sir Eric (Islington, E.)McKay, Mrs. MargaretWhite, Mrs. Eirene
Fletcher, Ted (Darlington)Mackenzie, Gregor (Rutherglen)Whitlock, William
Floud, BernardMackie, George Y. (C'ness & S'land)Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick
Foley, MauriceMackie, John (Enfield, E.)Williams, Albert (Abertillery)
Foot, Sir Dingle (Ipswich)MacMillan, MalcolmWilliams, Mrs. Shirley (Hitchin)
Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale)Mahon, Simon (Bootle)Willis, George (Edinburgh,E.)
Foster, Sir JohnManuel, ArchieWilson, William (Coventry, S.)
Freeson, ReginaldMapp, CharlesWoodburn, Rt. Hn. A.
Galpern, Sir MyerMilne, Edward (Blyth)Zilliacus, K.
Garrow, A.Miscampbell, Norman
Gourlay, HarryMolloy, WilliamTELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Gregory, ArnoldMonslow, WalterMr. Richard Crawshaw and
Grimond, Rt. Hn. J.Mulley,Rt.Hn.Frederick(SheffieldPk)Mr. Stanley Orme.
Hamilton, William (West Fife)O'Malley, Brian
NOES
Allan, Robert (Paddington, S.)Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. J.Cooke, Robert
Barlow, Sir JohnBraine, BernardCordle, John
Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay)Brewis, JohnCostain, A. P.
Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gos & Fhm)Brinton, Sir TattonCourtney, Cdr. Anthony
Berry, Hn. AnthonyBromley-Davenport.Lt.-Col.SirWalterCunningham, Sir Knox
Bessell, PeterBrown, Sir Edward (Bath)Curran, Charles
Blaker, PeterBuck, AntonyDavies, Dr. Wyndham (Perry Barr)
Bossom, Hn. CliveBuxton, RonaldDean, Paul
Box, DonaldClark, William (Nottingham, S.)Digby, Simon Wingfield

The Committee divided: Ayes 139, Noes 90.

Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton)Longden, GilbertStodart, Anthony
Farr, JohnMcAdden, Sir StephenStoddart-Scott, Col. Sir Malcolm
Fell, AnthonyMackenzie, Alasdair (Ross&Crom'ty)Studholme, Sir Henry
Gammans, LadyMcNair-Wilson, PatrickSummers, Sir Spencer
Gibson-Watt, DavidMaginnis, John E.Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)
Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife)Maude, AngusTaylor, Edward M. (G'gow,Cathcart)
Glover, Sir DouglasMaydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C.Temple, John M.
Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B.Mitchell, DavidThatcher, Mrs. Margaret
Goodhew, VictorMonro, HectorThompson, Sir Richard (Croydon,S.)
Gower, RaymondNicholls, Sir HarmarThorneycroft, Rt. Hn. Peter
Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.W.)Noble, Rt. Hn. MichaelTweedsmuir, Lady
Harris, Reader (Heston)Orr-Ewing, Sir lanvan Straubenzee, W. R.
Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere (Macclesf'd)Osborn, John (Hallam)Ward, Dame Irene
Harvie Anderson, MissOsborne, Sir Cyril (Louth)Weatherill, Bernard
Hendry, For[...]besPage, John (Harrow, W.)Webster, David
Hiley, JosephPearson, Sir Frank (Clitheroe)Wills, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater)
Hill, J. E. B. (S. Norfolk)Pickthorn, Rt. Hn. Sir KennethWilson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Jennings, J. C.Ridley, Hn. NicholasWolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Kilfedder, James A.Robson Brown, Sir WilliamYates, William (The Wrekin)
Kimball, MarcusScott-Hopkins, James
Lagden, GodfreySinclair, Sir GeorgeTELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Legge-Bourke, Sir HarrySmyth, Rt. Hn. Brig. Sir JohnMr. Ian Percival and
Sir Rolf Dudley Williams
Bill reported, with Amendments; as amended, to be considered Tomorrow and to be printed. [Bill 154.]
Sitting suspended.

Sitting resumed at 2.30 p.m.