Redundancy

Oral Answers to Questions — Ministry of Labour – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 12 April 1965.

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Photo of Mr Richard Glyn Mr Richard Glyn , North Dorset 12:00, 12 April 1965

asked the Minister of Labour what instructions have been given to the Government Actuary as to the contribution to be payable as a qualification for reundancy benefit; and what is his definition of redundancy.

Photo of Mr Raymond Gunter Mr Raymond Gunter , Southwark

No instructions have been given to the Government Actuary. Redundancy is defined in Clause 1(2) of the Redundancy Payments Bill which I have presented to the House.

Photo of Mr Richard Glyn Mr Richard Glyn , North Dorset

As the Government Actuary has not been instructed, may the House assume that the estimated 4d. is a piece of wild guesswork not unrelated to that which about six months ago earned the First Secretary the ironic title of "Mr. 3 per cent."? Will the right hon. Gentleman take a realistic view of this matter and of the enormous expense likely to be incurred? In order to avoid a constant upward readjustment of the stamp, will the right hon. Gentleman take steps to see that a realistic figure of perhaps 30s. is adopted for the total joint contribution to the National Insurance stamp in future?

Photo of Mr Raymond Gunter Mr Raymond Gunter , Southwark

I should have thought that this would have been better debated on Second Reading of the Redundancy Payments Bill, but I imagine that it is obvious to the House that rates of redundancy cannot be forecast on an actuarial basis. What we have tried to do is to take account of past manpower forecasts and estimated increases in future earnings levels. The aim must be to provide income for the redundancy fund sufficient to cover outgoings for an appreciable period, but a precise estimate cannot be made in this field.