Leprosy

Oral Answers to Questions — Ministry of Health – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 16 November 1964.

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Photo of Lieut-Colonel Sir Walter Bromley-Davenport Lieut-Colonel Sir Walter Bromley-Davenport , Knutsford 12:00, 16 November 1964

asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that medical practitioners and others concerned with the treatment of leprosy are proscribing the use of the word leper, in view of the fact that the odium associated with this word has done much to prevent the co-operation of communities concerned and hence the eradication of the disease; and whether he will give an assurance that this consideration is borne in mind by the staff of his department.

Photo of Sir Knox Cunningham Sir Knox Cunningham , South Antrim

asked the Minister of Health if he will give the numbers of lepers in England and Wales during each of the past five years, respectively.

Photo of Mr Derek Walker-Smith Mr Derek Walker-Smith , Hertfordshire East

asked the Minister of Health what facilities at present exist within the National Health Service for the treatment of leprosy; and how many patients are under treatment therefore.

Photo of Mr Kenneth Robinson Mr Kenneth Robinson , St Pancras North

My Department refers to "leprosy patients" or "sufferers from leprosy"

There are two special units for inpatients, one of which is outside the National. Health Service but accepts Health Service patients. Some patients are treated at other National Health Service hospitals. The numbers of patients in England and Wales on the Leprosy Register under treatment at 30th September was 328. The figures for the five years 1959 to 1963 at 31st December were, respectively, 189, 224, 221, 250 and 291.

Photo of Lieut-Colonel Sir Walter Bromley-Davenport Lieut-Colonel Sir Walter Bromley-Davenport , Knutsford

Could the right hon. Gentleman please answer my Question which refers to proscribing the use of the word "leper"?

Photo of Mr Kenneth Robinson Mr Kenneth Robinson , St Pancras North

I told the hon. and gallant Gentleman what the practice of my Department is. I am not aware of any general proscription, but if he objects to the word "leper" perhaps he will have a word with his hon. Friend the Member for Antrim, South (Sir Knox Cunningham), who uses it in his Question.

Photo of Mr Derek Walker-Smith Mr Derek Walker-Smith , Hertfordshire East

Would the right hon. Gentleman, whose accession to office I warmly welcome, having worked with him in the field of mental health, and knowing the constructive compassion he brings to these matters, nevertheless join in deprecating any use of terminology which, according to his own distinguished adviser on leprosy, is unscientific and inaccurate, and do what he can to stimulate a proper public attitude of sympathy and compassion for this unfortunate illness both in this country and among the many millions of people suffering in the Commonwealth and the less developed parts of the world?

Photo of Mr Kenneth Robinson Mr Kenneth Robinson , St Pancras North

I am sure there is no need for me to stimulate any feeling of compassion for the sufferers from this illness, but perhaps I could help the right hon. and learned Gentleman by reminding him that, quite apart from its medical meaning, according to the dictionary the word "leper" is defined also as "a person shunned for moral and social reasons."

Photo of Sir Knox Cunningham Sir Knox Cunningham , South Antrim

Could the right hon. Gentleman say if any of those "lepers" frequent the Labour Club at Smethwick?

Hon. Members:

Answer.

Photo of Mr Richard Glyn Mr Richard Glyn , North Dorset

Can the right hon. Gentleman say whether he would agree that this unfortunate complaint is more worthy of modern treatment, with the proper technological approach, rather than the use of a term of Old Testament abuse?

Photo of Mr Kenneth Robinson Mr Kenneth Robinson , St Pancras North

This condition is subject to treatment, and I am advised that it is a condition of low infectivity, and the possibility of its transmission under normal social conditions in this country is virtually negligible.

Several Hon. Members:

rose——

Mr. Deputy-Speaker:

Order. Mr. Burden—No. 38.

Mr. Deputy-Speaker:

I will deal with it before it is put. I apologise to the right hon. and learned Gentleman that I forgot to call his next Question No. 36.

Photo of Lieut-Colonel Sir Walter Bromley-Davenport Lieut-Colonel Sir Walter Bromley-Davenport , Knutsford

On a point of order. With great respect, is is not the custom in this House to allow an hon. Member who asks a Question to ask a supplementary question?![HON. MEMBERS: "You did."]—In my case, all I asked the right hon. Gentleman to do was to answer my Question, which he has not done. Therefore, I have not yet had the benefit of a Supplementary Question.

Mr. Deputy-Speaker:

The hon. and gallant Member asked the Minister to answer that part of his Question which he failed to answer. The Minister thereupon gave a reply. I think the hon. and gallant Member did put his Supplementary Question and ought to be reasonably satisfied.

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