Teaching Hospitals (Patients)

Oral Answers to Questions — Hospitals – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 27th April 1964.

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Photo of Sir Barnett Stross Sir Barnett Stross , Stoke-on-Trent Central 12:00 am, 27th April 1964

asked the Minister of Health what teaching hospitals make it a condition of admittance and treatment that the patient should if required be subjected to teaching procedures; how many patients have been refused admittance on account of refusing to give such permission; and which hospitals ask the patient to give a signed statement accepting this condition.

Photo of Mr James Boyden Mr James Boyden , Bishop Auckland

asked the Minister of Health how many teaching hospitals make treatment conditional upon the patient being used for teaching purposes.

Photo of Mr Anthony Barber Mr Anthony Barber , Doncaster

The answer to each part of the Question is none; five hospitals have on a few occasions recommended attendance at another hospital but none refuse treatment that is urgent or not readily obtainable elsewhere.

Photo of Sir Barnett Stross Sir Barnett Stross , Stoke-on-Trent Central

May we take it that in no circumstances has any patient ever been sent out of hospital for refusing to allow an examination and, secondly, that any suggestion that there is any widespread condition involved or made is unfounded?

Photo of Mr Anthony Barber Mr Anthony Barber , Doncaster

I have answered the Questions quite specifically and I did so after making considerable inquiries I was told that the number of patients unwilling to take part in teaching is negligible and that some hospitals knew of none and others of only two or three in recent years. Perhaps I might mention that when I entered a teaching hospital for a medical examination, I was surrounded by students who were told by the consultant that they had better pull up their socks if the hospital was to stand any chance of getting the funds it needed.

Photo of Mr James Boyden Mr James Boyden , Bishop Auckland

Would it not be illegal to refuse any patient entrance to a National Health Service hospital, provided always that facilities for treatment were available?

Photo of Mr Anthony Barber Mr Anthony Barber , Doncaster

My Answer to the two Questions was "None". Frankly, I do not think that I could be more specific than that.

Photo of Mr Kenneth Robinson Mr Kenneth Robinson , St Pancras North

In the course of his inquiries, did the right hon. Gentleman make sure that in all cases teaching hospitals asked the permission of patients before using them as teaching material?

Photo of Mr Anthony Barber Mr Anthony Barber , Doncaster

No, I did not. However, many hospitals, I am told, now explain their teaching activities in leaflets which are handed to patients on admission. I believe that half the undergraduate and one-third of the postgraduate hospitals do this.

Photo of Mr Kenneth Robinson Mr Kenneth Robinson , St Pancras North

Does not the right hon. Gentleman agree that in all cases the permission of the patient should be sought? If he does agree, will he take steps to see that that is done?

Photo of Mr Anthony Barber Mr Anthony Barber , Doncaster

I will be happy to see if we should extend the sort of arrangements to which I have referred.