asked the Minister of Transport if he will arrange for the instillation of traffic lights on the East Lancashire road, Liverpool, at its junction with Townsend Avenue, in view of the traffic hazards to which pedestrians are exposed at present.

We do not consider traffic lights are justified at this junction at present.

How does my hon. Friend reach such a conclusion when everyone in the area knows that it is absolutely necessary to have this kind of controlled crossing in order that people may walk across the road? Is my hon. Friend aware that traffic movements have been so successful that the traffic moves so quickly as to prevent pedestrians crossing the road? Surely something should be done to help them?

My information is that in the last three years only three pedestrians lave been injured, but in view of what my hon. Friend has said, I am arranging for the divisional road engineer to have a new count taken and in the light of that, we can reconsider the matter.

Will my hon. Friend say what is the normal number of accidents which have to happen before there can to a controlled pedestrian crossing?

There is not any norm; it depends on each case and each is dealt with differently.