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Approved Schools

Oral Answers to Questions — Home Department – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 23rd January 1964.

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Photo of Mr James Boyden Mr James Boyden , Bishop Auckland 12:00 am, 23rd January 1964

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the present average cost of new places in approved schools; and how this compares with the cost of places in other boarding establishments.

Photo of Miss Mervyn Pike Miss Mervyn Pike , Melton

The new places provided in approved schools since 1st April, 1960, have been obtained by extending or adapting existing premises, at an average cost of £2,300 a place. New building will cost considerably more. As the purposes and requirements of other boarding establishments vary so widely, no useful comparison can be made.

Photo of Mr James Boyden Mr James Boyden , Bishop Auckland

Are not these figures very high indeed? Is the hon. Lady's Department taking any steps to carry out major reconstructions or build new schools in conjunction with consortia and effecting economies in that way?

Photo of Miss Mervyn Pike Miss Mervyn Pike , Melton

Although these figures seem high, adapting old premises is expensive and new premises cost even more.

Photo of Miss Alice Bacon Miss Alice Bacon , Leeds South East

Is the country getting value for all this money? Does the hon. Lady consider that she and her right hon. Friend have all the control necessary to ensure that the country does so?

Photo of Miss Mervyn Pike Miss Mervyn Pike , Melton

Yes. I can assure the hon. Lady that we are getting good value, and I believe we have adequate control.

Photo of Mr Cyril Osborne Mr Cyril Osborne , Louth Borough

Why should delinquent boys get better treatment than lads who behave themselves? Why should we build palaces for these scoundrels? Why cannot we treat them more harshly?

Photo of Miss Mervyn Pike Miss Mervyn Pike , Melton

I do not think they get better treatment, but I believe that the treatment we give is in the best interests of society as a whole.