Oral Answers to Questions — Local Government – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 21 January 1964.
Mr Charles Loughlin
, Gloucestershire West
12:00,
21 January 1964
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government and Minister for Welsh Affairs if he will introduce legislation to enable members of local authorities to vote upon issues relating to the terms of tenancies of council houses when they are tenants of such houses.
Mr Frederick Corfield
, Gloucestershire South
No, Sir. The existing law enables my right hon. Friend to give such members a dispensation to vote in appropriate circumstances. But I think it is generally accepted that a member should not, if it can be avoided, vote on matters which manifestly affect his own pocket.
Mr Charles Loughlin
, Gloucestershire West
Has the hon. Gentleman conferred with the Prime Minister on this issue? Is he aware that the Prime Minister has repeatedly justified to this House Ministers, including himself, initiating and voting on policy from which they have themselves received vast sums of money in the form of subsidies? Why should there be a higher standard of public conduct for councillors than for the Prime Minister and other Ministers?
Mr Frederick Corfield
, Gloucestershire South
I think that the operative words in my Answer were "if it can be avoided". The hon. Gentleman will realise that most of us here hope one day to retire and to get an old-age pension, but we would be very pushed to do so if we could not vote on it.
Mr Charles Loughlin
, Gloucestershire West
Will the hon. Gentleman give the House an assurance that he will discuss this matter with the Prime Minister and let us have the Prime Minister's views on it?
Mr Michael Maitland Stewart
, Fulham
May I ask the Minister whether he is aware that these rules sometimes create very real difficulties, and would not it be simpler to enact that any councillor may vote on any issue, provided that if he has a personal interest he declares it so that his fellow councillors and the whole electorate know?
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