Equal Pay (T.U.C. Consultations)

Oral Answers to Questions — National Finance – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 17th July 1952.

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Photo of Mr Marcus Lipton Mr Marcus Lipton , Lambeth Brixton 12:00 am, 17th July 1952

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will state what further steps he has now taken to implement the principle of equal pay.

Photo of Miss Elaine Burton Miss Elaine Burton , Coventry South

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what decisions were arrived at in his recent talks on equal pay with leaders of the Trades Union Congress; and if he will make a statement on the position.

Miss Ward:

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will report on his conversations with the Trades Union Council on equal pay.

Photo of Mr John Boyd-Carpenter Mr John Boyd-Carpenter , Kingston upon Thames

The purpose of the deputation from the Trades Union Congress which came to see my right hon. Friend was to urge the Government to begin discussions with Civil Service staff representatives on the ways and means by which a start might be made with equal pay on a gradual basis. As my right hon. Friend informed the delegation, he proposes shortly to give a considered reply to a similar request from the Staff Side of the Civil Service National Whitley Council. He has undertaken to inform the Trades Union Congress of the nature of this reply.

Photo of Mr Marcus Lipton Mr Marcus Lipton , Lambeth Brixton

What are the Government doing in the matter? Will the Financial Secretary bear in mind that he gave a pledge that this matter would be actively examined, and will he give an assurance that that particular pledge will not disappear through the trap-door which the Prime Minister opens at irregular intervals?

Photo of Mr John Boyd-Carpenter Mr John Boyd-Carpenter , Kingston upon Thames

If the hon. and gallant Gentleman studies my answer in HANSARD I think he will see that it is wholly consistent with that pledge.

Miss Ward:

May I ask my hon. Friend if he has been able to convince the trade unions that the Conservative Party are on the level in this matter? May I also ask him if he is aware that the quicker he can make the start, the more likely they are to be permanently convinced?

Photo of Mr John Boyd-Carpenter Mr John Boyd-Carpenter , Kingston upon Thames

I do not think the Trades Union Congress, who are a very wise and sensible body, need to be convinced of the obvious.

Photo of Miss Elaine Burton Miss Elaine Burton , Coventry South

Can the Financial Secretary give us any idea as to the actual date on which the Chancellor hopes to be able to make a statement because we have had, I regret to say, so much stonewalling in the past from the Labour Government, and also from the present Conservative Government up to date?

Photo of Mr John Boyd-Carpenter Mr John Boyd-Carpenter , Kingston upon Thames

I have nothing to add to what I said in the original answer.

Photo of Mr James Hudson Mr James Hudson , Ealing North

I hope the hon. Gentleman is taking into account the fact that apart from the Trades Union Congress this House showed itself to be unanimously in favour of early steps being taken in the matter. Several weeks have elapsed, and surely the hon. Gentleman agrees that we have the right to press for an early statement on the matter?

Photo of Mr John Boyd-Carpenter Mr John Boyd-Carpenter , Kingston upon Thames

I think that if the hon. Gentleman will consult the answer I have given he will see that we are proceeding on the course outlined by me during that debate.