I am sure the right hon. and learned Gentleman does not wish to misrepresent our point of view. It is perfectly true that many of us have argued that the C licence holder is creating an excessive amount of increased labour and use of vehicles on the road transport side, but the point which we have made very often, and which the right hon. and learned Gentleman has skilfully avoided mentioning, is the fact that when the undertakings were taken over the short-distance local haulier who operated for 25 miles, to whom the right hon. and learned Gentleman referred, was left to carry on his private business. The others were bought out and their goodwill was transferred to the Transport Commission.
It was not because the previous services were not available but because the manufacturers immediately decided to boycott the national services that C licences arose. They never gave the national transport organisation a chance. [HON. MEMBERS: "Speech !"] The right hon. and learned Gentleman can reply. They decided as a matter of policy to boycott the national transport industry, cost what it may, and that was said by many industrialists.