Ordnance Inspection Officers

Oral Answers to Questions — Royal Navy – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 29th June 1949.

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Photo of Commander Sir John Maitland Commander Sir John Maitland , Horncastle 12:00 am, 29th June 1949

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty if he will now make a statement regarding improved pay and allowances for officers serving in the Department of the Chief Inspector of Naval Ordnance.

Lieut.-Commander Clark Hutchison:

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether the recommendations made by the Madden Committee in regard to the conditions of service of officers in the Naval Ordnance Inspection Department have now been accepted.

Photo of Mr Walter Edwards Mr Walter Edwards , Stepney Whitechapel and St George's

I cannot at present make any statement regarding improved salary scales for the officers serving in the Naval Ordnance Inspection Department, but I am hopeful that revised salary scales for these officers will now be settled shortly.

Photo of Commander Sir John Maitland Commander Sir John Maitland , Horncastle

Is it not really disgraceful that there should be this continual delay? It has been going on now for years. Is it not just plain dishonesty by the Government to have enticed these men into this job and not to have fulfilled the promises made to them? May I also ask why the Civil Lord is answering this Question? Has the Parliamentary Secretary run out of answers after the many times he has been answering this subject, including an Adjournment Debate? Why has it now been turned over to the Civil Lord?

Photo of Mr Walter Edwards Mr Walter Edwards , Stepney Whitechapel and St George's

The answer to the second part of the supplementary question is that the Civil Lord has always answered these Questions. He certainly answered the Question on the last occasion, as the hon. and gallant Gentleman will see if he looks at HANSARD. As to the suggestion of dishonesty, there is nothing dishonest about this. The Government are trying to settle this matter in a fair and proper way, and consideration tion must take some time because not only the Admiralty, but other Departments have to be consulted.

Lieut.-Commander Hutchison:

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the salary scales of some of these officers today are lower than they were in 1931, and will he expedite the remedying of this very unfortunate state of affairs?

Photo of Mr Walter Edwards Mr Walter Edwards , Stepney Whitechapel and St George's

I can assure the hon. and gallant Gentleman that we are doing everything possible to expedite it and we are a little bit more than hopeful that something definite will be announced within two or three weeks.

Mr. J. P. L. Thomas:

Can the hon. Gentleman say whether the Madden Committee recommended a substantial increase in the rates of pay and improved conditions in this very important branch of the service?

Photo of Mr Walter Edwards Mr Walter Edwards , Stepney Whitechapel and St George's

The Madden Committee certainly made recommendations among which were improved rates of pay for the Department. Obviously that has to receive consideration in the Government.

Photo of Sir John Langford-Holt Sir John Langford-Holt , Shrewsbury

Is it not the case that the Madden Committee reported 18 months ago, making these recommendations, and that the Civil Lord has now given the House an answer which is even less optimistic than the answers he was giving three months ago?

Photo of Mr Walter Edwards Mr Walter Edwards , Stepney Whitechapel and St George's

I have not given a less optimistic answer. What I said was that we are going into the question as quickly as we possibly can and that we hope to give something definite within two or three weeks' time.

Commander Galbraith:

Is it not the case that this matter has been under active consideration by the Government for four years? Will the hon. Gentleman really do something about it now?

Lieut.-Commander Hutchison:

In view of the unsatisfactory state of affairs, I beg to give notice that I shall raise this matter on the Adjournment at the earliest possible moment.