Oral Answers to Questions — Civil Aviation – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 17 December 1947.
Mr William Shepherd
, Bucklow
12:00,
17 December 1947
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Civil Aviation how many of the B.E.A. services have been speeded up since 1st August; and what percentage increase in petrol consumption has resulted.
Mr George Lindgren
, Wellingborough
The answer to the first part of the Question is "Nine," and to the last part, "None, Sir."
Mr William Shepherd
, Bucklow
Will the Parliamentary Secretary say how he gets an increase of speed without at the same time getting increased petrol consumption?
Mr George Lindgren
, Wellingborough
By the change of aircraft.
Mr William Shepherd
, Bucklow
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Civil Aviation if he will give a list of the services operated by the three Corporations, which when working to a full capacity, must of necessity involve a loss.
Mr George Lindgren
, Wellingborough
No, Sir. It would not be in the public interest to give this information.
Mr William Shepherd
, Bucklow
If, as I believe to be the case, there are runs which are losing as much as £8,000 on a return trip, is it not time the public knew the true facts about British civil aviation?
Mr George Lindgren
, Wellingborough
To take individual routes out of the network of services provided would be unfair and would not give the correct picture.
Flight Lieut Wavell Wakefield
, St Marylebone
Is it not a fact that certain aircraft are not being operated on their full permissible pay load and that as a result losses amounting to hundreds of thousands of pounds are taking place?
Mr George Lindgren
, Wellingborough
Permissible pay loads may not always coincide with the operator's view in regard to safety, and safety is the first factor.
Mr Frederick Erroll
, Altrincham and Sale
If the Parliamentary Secretary cannot give the losses for individual lines, can he give the gross figure of loss?
Mr George Lindgren
, Wellingborough
The House will have that information when the accounts of the three Corporations are published shortly.
Sir Edward Keeling
, Twickenham
When the hon. Gentleman says that it would not be in the public interest to give the information, does he mean that it would be contrary to the public interest to give it, and, if so, would he say why?
Mr George Lindgren
, Wellingborough
No, Sir. One is prepared to give information which one's competitors are prepared to give. Discussions are going on now through the International Civil Aviation Organisation to get all airline operators to agree to give statistics which will enable the public to judge for themselves; such agreed statistics will not place one operator at a disadvantage with another in regard to the information provided.
Mr John Hare
, Woodbridge
asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Civil Aviation why B.O.A.C. have been failing to deliver passengers and mail in Teheran according to schedule.
Mr George Lindgren
, Wellingborough
Because of restrictions on transit imposed by certain Governments arising out of the cholera epidemic in Egypt and a report of plague in Persia.
Mr John Hare
, Woodbridge
Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the Dutch, Swedish and French airlines have been able to keep a regular service going merely because they took the trouble to avoid Baghdad and fly straight from Lydda to Teheran? Is it not a pity for the sake of British prestige that we are not capable of making some alternative arrangements?
Mr George Lindgren
, Wellingborough
The flight stages and the pay load to be carried over them must be left to the individual operator to determine.
Flight Lieut Wavell Wakefield
, St Marylebone
It is not a fact that private charter companies are keeping up a very accurate schedule for their flights in this area.
Mr George Lindgren
, Wellingborough
It is not a question of accurate flights but of not being able to operate into a particular airport because of restrictions on account of health regulations. The first supplementary question suggested that certain points could have been reached by over-flying other points, but they were not over-flown in this case.