Fares Increase (Explanatory Information)

Oral Answers to Questions — Railways – in the House of Commons at 12:00 am on 11 August 1947.

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The following Question stood upon the Order Paper in the name of Mr. DRIBERG:

To ask the Minister of Transport if he will take steps, by means of advertising, broadcasts, or otherwise, to inform the public of the reasons for the increases in fares and so to forestall attempts by hostile propagandists to misrepresent them as a consequence of nationalisation.

Photo of Mr Quintin Hogg Mr Quintin Hogg , Oxford

On a point of Order. Before this Question is asked I wish to put this to you, Mr. Speaker: I had always understood that the use of epithets in Questions on the Order Paper was out of Order. This Question contains the epithet "hostile propagandists." Surely, that is out of Order, according to that rule?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel Sir Thomas Moore Lieut-Colonel Sir Thomas Moore , Ayr District of Burghs

If such a provocative adjective is used, which I always understood was against your ruling, Mr. Speaker, should not the word "truthful" have been used instead of hostile?

Photo of Mr Douglas Clifton Brown Mr Douglas Clifton Brown , Hexham

I cannot think that "hostile propagandists" is out of Order. It really explains exactly what the hon. Member means by his Question.

Photo of Major Guy Lloyd Major Guy Lloyd , Renfrewshire Eastern

Surely, the word "hostile" does, in fact, imply an insinuation or, indeed a misrepresentation. If it was either an insinuation or a misrepresentation, would it be in Order?

Photo of Mr Douglas Clifton Brown Mr Douglas Clifton Brown , Hexham

I suppose one might just as well say "Opposition propagandists."

Photo of Mr Joseph Alpass Mr Joseph Alpass , Thornbury

Is not that the sole intention of it—to be hostile—and nothing else?

Photo of Mr Tom Driberg Mr Tom Driberg , Maldon

Question No. 21.

Photo of Mr George Strauss Mr George Strauss , Lambeth North

I think that the statement my right hon. Friend made on 5th August in announcing the increase in railway charges sufficiently indicated the true causes of the need for such an increase and it received wide publicity. I will, however, bear my hon. Friend's suggestion in mind.

Photo of Viscount  Hinchingbrooke Viscount Hinchingbrooke , Dorset Southern

While disclaiming any intention of being a hostile propagandist, may I ask the hon. Gentleman whether he is aware that as regards reduction in prices there is no difference in principle between a free railway system and a free vegetable market?

Photo of Viscount  Turnour Viscount Turnour , Horsham

Will the hon. Gentleman give an undertaking that public money will not be spent in putting forward the views of the fatuous propagandists on the Government benches? May I have an answer to that question?

Photo of Mr George Strauss Mr George Strauss , Lambeth North

Public money will only be spent in putting forward the facts when the public desire to have the facts and it is desirable that they should have them.

Photo of Mr Henry Strauss Mr Henry Strauss , Combined English Universities

Is it not quite clear that this increase is due to the Government's policy of inflation, whether or not that policy is consciously adopted by the Chancellor of the exchequer?

Photo of Mr George Strauss Mr George Strauss , Lambeth North

No, I do not accept that at all.

Several Hon. Members:

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Photo of Sir Waldron Smithers Sir Waldron Smithers , Orpington

On a point of Order, Mr. Speaker. May I point out that there are only 31 Questions on the Order Paper.

Photo of Mr Douglas Clifton Brown Mr Douglas Clifton Brown , Hexham

The hon. Member does not know how many Private Notice Questions there may be.

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