Pensioners (Employment)

Oral Answers to Questions — National War Effort – in the House of Commons on 10th November 1942.

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Photo of Mr Irving Albery Mr Irving Albery , Gravesend

asked the Minister of Labour whether he can now make a statement, for public information, concerning the bar to the acceptance of paid employment which is imposed by many of the trust deeds dealing with superannuation; and to what extent this hinders such persons from performing useful war work for which they may be otherwise fitted?

Photo of Mr George Tomlinson Mr George Tomlinson , Farnworth

So far as I am aware, these trust deeds do not impose a bar on the acceptance of paid employment by pensioners but they commonly provide that the pension which would otherwise have been payable is to be suspended or reduced so long as the employee concerned is employed by the firm paying the pension. My right hon. Friend has no evidence that this is having any appreciable effect on the continuance of pensioners on work either with their former employers or with some other employer, and in the absence of such evidence he would not feel justified in taking steps to interfere with the conditions on which these pensions are granted.

Photo of Mr Irving Albery Mr Irving Albery , Gravesend

Will my hon. Friend bear in mind that when a man has to give up the whole of his pension to take up some other service, he is usually involved in some additional expenditure; and is he aware that there are a number of men who could do useful service but cannot because of this condition?

Photo of Mr George Tomlinson Mr George Tomlinson , Farnworth

We should like to have some evidence of that.