Oral Answers to Questions — Military Training. – in the House of Commons at on 29 June 1939.
Dr Edith Summerskill
, Fulham West
asked the Minister of Labour what instructions have been issued to the medical boards charged with examining militiamen as to the standard of health required for service?
Mr Richard Acland
, Barnstaple
asked the Minister of Labour whether, in order to dispel any suggestion that the standard of militiamen's medical examination was lower than that of entrants of the Regular and Territorial Army, he will publish the instructions, whether verbal or in writing, which were given to the doctors who conducted the examinations?
Mr Lewis Silkin
, Camberwell Peckham
asked the Minister of Labour whether any instructions have been issued to the medical boards appointed under the Military Training Act and, if so, will he issue a statement setting out such instructions?
Mr Ernest Brown
, Leith
I am having a copy of the instructions placed in the library.
Dr Edith Summerskill
, Fulham West
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that men are being passed as fit for service who are regarded as chronic invalids?
Mr Ernest Brown
, Leith
I am not aware of that. Perhaps the hon. Lady will read the copy of the instructions which have been issued, and if she then desires to pursue the matter either in the House or with the Department, or with me personally, I shall be very glad to deal with it.
Dr Edith Summerskill
, Fulham West
Has it been brought to the right hon. Gentleman's notice that men with glass eyes are being passed as fit for service?
Mr Ernest Brown
, Leith
I answered a question dealing with that point only last week, I believe.
Mr George Mathers
, Linlithgowshire
Will it not be possible for the right hon. Gentleman to give more publicity to these instructions than will be given by placing them in the Library?
Mr Ernest Brown
, Leith
I cannot add anything to what I have said at the moment. The instructions are long and elaborate, and have been drawn up with great care in consultation with a number of experts. Perhaps when hon. Members have seen them they will consider whether they desire to raise the matter further.
Mr Rhys Davies
, Westhoughton
asked the Minister of Labour whether the medical personnel examining militiamen is the same as in the case of those joining the Regular Forces; if not, how this personnel has been chosen and what are their qualifications for their posts; and will he state the percentages of medical rejects in the case of militiamen and the Regular Army, respectively?
Mr Ernest Brown
, Leith
The medical boards set up under the Military Training Act are composed of civilian doctors selected by the Ministry of Health from lists supplied by the British Medical Association. The percentage of men found unfit for any form of military service up to 20th June was 2.6 in the case of the examinations under the Military Training Act. As regards the results of the examinations for the Regular Army the hon. Member should address his question to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for War.
Mr Rhys Davies
, Westhoughton
Does the right hon. Gentleman mean to tell the House that he does not realise the difference between the two, and will he tell me whether the qualifications of the doctors who are examining under the Military Training Act are the same as those of the doctors who examine for the Regular Army?
Mr Ernest Brown
, Leith
Their qualifications are of the highest kind.
Mr Rhys Davies
, Westhoughton
That is not what I asked. They may have qualifications of the highest kind, but have they the qualifications which would set the same standard of examination in the two cases?
Mr Ernest Brown
, Leith
That is another point, and that is why I have referred the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend.
Mr Robert Taylor
, Morpeth
Can the Minister assure the House that there is adequate provision for testing the eyes of the militiamen, because great doubt is being expressed on that point in view of the fact that men are being passed who have never been able to see without glasses?
Mr Ernest Brown
, Leith
That does not tally with the information which I had received from hon. Members.
Mr Robert Taylor
, Morpeth
I am making not a general statement, but a specific statement.
Dr Edith Summerskill
, Fulham West
asked the Minister of Labour whether a militiaman who has an unsatisfactory medical history and who is dissatisfied with the decision of the examining doctor is given the right to appeal for a second opinion from a specialist?
Mr Ernest Brown
, Leith
The decisions of the medical boards are final, but arrangements are made for men to be referred to consultants for report when the boards are in doubt.
Dr Edith Summerskill
, Fulham West
Would the right hon. Gentleman agree that if a man has certificates over a long period of years certifying him as suffering from some complaint, which may be obscure to a new doctor who is examining him, that he should have the right to appeal to a specialist in his complaint?
Mr Ernest Brown
, Leith
I should not like to give a definite answer upon a particular case without consulting the specialist concerned, but I shall be glad to discuss the matter with the hon. Lady.
Dr Edith Summerskill
, Fulham West
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that many Members on this side of the House have cases sent to them day after day of men who have been certified as suffering from a certain complaint but are now passed fit for service?
Mr Ernest Brown
, Leith
I hope hon. Members will send them on to me. The thing that has struck me for the last fortnight is the very small number of letters I have had on this matter.
Ministers make up the Government and almost all are members of the House of Lords or the House of Commons. There are three main types of Minister. Departmental Ministers are in charge of Government Departments. The Government is divided into different Departments which have responsibilities for different areas. For example the Treasury is in charge of Government spending. Departmental Ministers in the Cabinet are generally called 'Secretary of State' but some have special titles such as Chancellor of the Exchequer. Ministers of State and Junior Ministers assist the ministers in charge of the department. They normally have responsibility for a particular area within the department and are sometimes given a title that reflects this - for example Minister of Transport.
This phrase is often used in written answers to indicate that a minister has deposited some relevant information in the House of Commons Library. Typical content includes research reports, letters, and tables of data not published elsewhere.
A list of such depositions can be found at http://deposits.parliament.uk/ along with some of the documents. The Library is not open to the public, but copies of documents can be requested if they are not on that website. For more information, see the House of Commons factsheet: http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/P15.pdf
Secretary of State was originally the title given to the two officials who conducted the Royal Correspondence under Elizabeth I. Now it is the title held by some of the more important Government Ministers, for example the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs.