Business of the House.

– in the House of Commons on 18th July 1935.

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Photo of Mr George Lansbury Mr George Lansbury , Poplar Bow and Bromley

Would the Prime Minister state what is the business for to-morrow, and the business for next week?

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

In addition to the Second Reading of the Cattle Industry Bill which has already been announced for to-morrow, we propose to take the remaining stages of the House of Commons Disqualification Bill, the British Sugar Bill, the Isle of Man (Customs) Bill, Teachers (Superannuation) Bill, the Report of the Navy, Army and Air Expenditure, the remaining stages of the Criminal Lunatics (Scotland) Bill, and the Motion to approve Greenwich Hospital accounts.

The business for next week will be:

Monday: Supply, Committee, 17th Allotted Day, the Navy Estimates, Vote 12 (Admiralty Office); Air Supplementary Estimate; Committee Stage of the Cattle Industry Bill.

Tuesday: Supply, Committee, 18th Allotted Day, Debate on Reports of Commissioners for the Special Areas; Third Reading of the Cattle Industry Bill.

Wednesday: Supply, Committee, 19th Allotted Day, Mines Department Vote.

Thursday: Supply, Report, 20th Allotted Day, Colonial Office Vote.

At 10 o'clock on Wednesday and Thursday the Committee and Report stages, respectively, of all outstanding Supply Votes will be put from the Chair.

The business for Friday will be announced later.

During the week progress will be made with other orders, including Money Payments (Justices Procedure) Bill, and the Assurance Companies (Winding-up) Bill, which have come down from another place.

Photo of Mr George Lansbury Mr George Lansbury , Poplar Bow and Bromley

A pretty hefty programme! With regard to Friday, some of the items are quite non-controversial, but there are two or three that will need to be discussed, I am sure. I would express the hope that through the usual channels the Prime Minister will make some arrangement as to time for each of them, so that those which require discussion may be discussed. With regard to the business next week, on Tuesday we propose to put down a Motion similar to Motions that we have moved before, in order that the Debate on the Reports of the Commissioners for the depressed areas may be discussed in the broadest manner possible.

Photo of Mr John Tinker Mr John Tinker , Leigh

With regard to Wednesday, I understood the Prime Minister to say that at 10 o'clock the outstanding Votes will be taken.

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

Yes, at 10 o'clock.

Photo of Mr John Tinker Mr John Tinker , Leigh

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that on the Mines Department Vote many important questions arise, and that the whole of the time should be allotted to it?

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

The hon. Member must be aware that this arrangement has nothing to do with me. I cannot interfere with Standing Orders. I have not selected the Vote, and under the Standing Orders we have to take the outstanding Votes.

Photo of Mr Frederick Cocks Mr Frederick Cocks , Broxtowe

With regard to the business on Friday, I note that the Greenwich Hospital accounts come last of all. There is very strong criticism about Greenwich Hospital. Can the right hon. Gentleman give an assurance that time will be given for the discussion of that subject?

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

The Leader of the Opposition has just said that through the usual channels it was hoped to allocate time so that everyone has a fair chance to discuss the subject in which he is interested.

Captain GUEST:

As to Tuesday's business, is the House to understand that only a very short space of time will be given to discussion of the Supplementary Estimates for Air expansion?


On Monday.

Photo of Mr William Stewart Mr William Stewart , Belfast South

Will the House have an opportunity to discuss the Forestry Commission Report before the Adjournment?

Captain GUEST:

In my question I mentioned Tuesday instead of Monday, but my remark applies equally to Monday, in view of the importance of the Supplementary Estimate for Air expansion. The Estimate seems to me to be sandwiched in between the Navy and Army Supplementary Estimates, and therefore no adequate time can be given to discussion of this enormous expenditure of public money.

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

These two Votes have been put down at the request of the Opposition, but the allocation of time as between them will depend on the desire of hon. Members to take part in the Debate.

Captain GUEST:

As the pressure on the Government to increase the Air Force has not come from the Opposition but from supporters of the Government, does it not seem ordinary justice and commonsense that time should be allotted to those who have pressed for it and not to those who have opposed it?

Photo of Mr George Lansbury Mr George Lansbury , Poplar Bow and Bromley

If my memory serves me right, we did our best to get a day for the discussion of this matter, and we certainly are not desirous of preventing the fullest discussion. This is a matter which is out of my hands, but I understand that the House wishes to adjourn on a certain day. If hon. and right hon. Gentlemen are prepared to sit for another day we are quite willing that one day should be allocated to the Air Service and another to the Navy.

Photo of Mr John Gretton Mr John Gretton , Burton

In view of the importance of these two subjects, the Navy and Air Force, would the Government consider the advisability of suspending the Eleven o'clock Rule on Monday so as to give adequate time for discussion?

Photo of Mr James Maxton Mr James Maxton , Glasgow Bridgeton

With reference to the discussion on the Ministry of Mines Vote, may I ask the Prime Minister whether we could not have a later report from the Ministry than that which is now available and which only covers down to December, 1933? Further, may I ask whether the report of the Ministry of Mines could not be made a Parliamentary Paper so that Members could get it on application at the Vote Office instead of being, as it is, a non-Parliamentary paper?

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

Perhaps the hon. Member will be good enough to put that question on the Paper, and he shall have a reply.

Photo of Mr James Maxton Mr James Maxton , Glasgow Bridgeton

I wish to ask the Prime Minister whether, accepting my word that these are the facts, he will

make representations in the proper quarter to see that the appropriate information is available to the House for the proper discussion of this Vote.

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

I will look into that, certainly, but, at the moment, I can say nothing more, as I am not familiar with the subject.

Motion made, and Question put, That this day, notwithstanding anything in Standing Order No. 14, Business other than the Business of Supply may be taken before Eleven of the Clock and that the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 269; Noes, 48.

Division No. 276.]AYES.[4.1 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-ColonelCooke, DouglasHamilton, Sir George (Ilford)
Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.)Cooper, A. DuffHartington, Marquess of
Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G.Cooper, T. M. (Edinburgh, W.)Hartland, George A.
Albery, Irving JamesCourthope, Colonel Sir George L.Harvey, George (Lambeth, Kenningt'n)
Allen, Lt.-Col. J. Sandeman (B'k'nh'd)Craddock, Sir Reginald HenryHaslam, Henry (Horncastle)
Allen, William (Stoke-on-Trent)Croft, Brigadier-General Sir H.Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Sir Cuthbert
Allen, Lt.-Col. Sir William (Armagh)Crookshank, Col. C. de Windt (Bootle)Heligers, Captain F. F. A.
Anderson, Sir Alan GarrettCrookshank, Capt. H. C. (Gainsb'ro)Henderson, Sir Vivian L. (Chelmsford)
Assheton, RalphCross, R. H.Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur F.
Astbury, Lieut.-Com. Frederick WolfeCrossley, A. C.Herbert, Major J. A. (Monmouth)
Atholl, Duchess ofCruddas, Lieut.-Colonel BernardHerbert, Capt. S. (Abbey Division)
Bailey, Eric Alfred GeorgeCuiverwell, Cyril TomHope, Capt. Hon. A. O. J. (Aston)
Baillie, Sir Adrian W. M.Dalkeith, Earl ofHornby, Frank
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. StanleyDavidson, Rt. Hon. Sir JohnHorobin, Ian M.
Balniel, LordDavies, Maj. Geo. F. (Somerset, Yeovil)Horsbrugh, Florence
Barclay-Harvey, C. M.Davison, Sir William HenryHowitt, Dr. Alfred B.
Beauchamp, Sir Brograve CampbellDenman, Hon. R. D.Hudson, Capt. A. U. M. (Hackney, N.)
Beaumont, M. W. (Bucks., Aylesbury)Doran, EdwardHudson, Robert Spear (Southport)
Benn, Sir Arthur ShirleyDower, Captain A. V. G.Hume, Sir George Hopwood
Bennett, Capt. Sir Ernest NathanielDuckworth, George A. V.Hunter, Dr. Joseph (Dumfries)
Bernays, RobertDugdale, Captain Thomas LionelJackson, Sir Henry (Wandsworth, C.)
Birchall, Major Sir John DearmanDuggan, Hubert JohnJames, Wing.-Com. A. W. H.
Blaker, Sir ReginaldDuncan, James A. L. (Kensington, N.)Jamieson, Rt. Hon. Douglas
Blindell, JamesEales, John FrederickJesson, Major Thomas E.
Bowater, Col. Sir T. VanslttartElliot, Rt. Hon. WalterKer, J. Campbell
Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W.Ellis, Sir R. GeoffreyKerr, J. Graham (Scottish Univ.)
Brass, Captain Sir WilliamElmley, ViscountKerr, Hamilton W.
Briscoe, Capt. Richard GeorgeEmmott, Charles E. G. C.Kirkpatrick, William M.
Broadbent, Colonel JohnEmrys-Evans, P. V.Knox, Sir Alfred
Brocklebank, C. E. R.Entwistle, Cyril FullardLamb, Sir Joseph Quinton
Brown, Brig.-Gen. H. C. (Berks., Newb'y)Erskine-Bolst, Capt. C. C. (Blackpool)Lambert, Rt. Hon. George
Browns, Captain A. C.Everard, W. LindsayLaw, Richard K. (Hull, S. W.)
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T.Fermoy, LordLevy, Thomas
Bullock, Captain MalcolmFleming, Edward LascellesLindsay, Kenneth (Kilmarnock)
Burgin, Dr. Edward LeslieFraser, Captain Sir IanLister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Cunliffe-
Burnett, John GeorgeGalbraith, James Francis WallaceLlewellin, Major John J.
Butler, Richard AustenGanzoni, Sir JohnLloyd, Geoffrey
Cadogan, Hon. EdwardGibson, Charles GranvilleLocker-Lampson, Rt. Hn. G. (Wd. G'n)
Campbell, Sir Edward Taswell (Brmly)Gledhill, GilbertLovat-Fraser, James Alexander
Campbell-Johnston, MalcolmGlossop, C. W. H.Lyons, Abraham Montagu
Caporn, Arthur CullGluckstein, Louis HalleMabane, William
Cautley, Sir Henry S.Goldie, Noel B.MacAndrew, Lieut.-Col. Sir Charles
Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (Prtsmth., S.)Goodman, Colonel Albert W.MacAndrew, Major J. O. (Ayr)
Cazalet, Thelma (Islington, E.)Gower, Sir RobertMcConnell, Sir Joseph
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. Sir J. A. (Birm., W.)Graham, Sir F. Fergus (C'mb'rl'd. N.)MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Seaham)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Edgbaston)Granville, EdgarMacdonald, Capt. P. D. (I. of W.)
Chapman, Sir Samuel (Edinburgh, S.)Grattan-Doyle, Sir NicholasMcEwen, Captain J. H. F.
Churchill, Rt. Hon. Winston SpencerGraves, MarjorieMcKie, John Hamilton
Clarry, Reginald GeorgeGreene, William P. C.Maclay, Hon. Joseph Paton
Clayton, Sir ChristopherGretton, Colonel Rt. Hon. JohnMcLean, Major Sir Alan
Cobb, Sir CyrilGrimston, R. V.McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston)
Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D.Guest, Capt. Rt. Hon. F. E.Macpherson, Rt. Hon. Sir Ian
Collins, Rt. Hon. Sir GodfreyGunston, Captain D. W.Maitland, Adam
Colman, N. C. D.Guy, J. C. MorrisonMakins, Brigadier-General Ernest
Colville, Lieut.-Colonel J.Hacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H.Manningham-Buller, Lt.-Col. Sir M.
Conant, R. J. E.Hales, Harold K.Margesson, Capt. Rt. Hon. H. D. R.
Marsden, Commander ArthurRamsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian)Stanley, Rt. Hon. Oliver (W'morland)
Martin, Thomas B.Ramsay, T. B. W. (Western Isles)Stewart, J. Henderson (Fife, E.)
Mayhew, Lieut.-Colonel JohnRamsbotham, HerwaldStewart, William J. (Belfast, S.)
Meller, Sir Richard James (Mitcham)Ramsden, Sir EugeneStones, James
Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest)Rankin, RobertStorey, Samuel
Milne, CharlesRathbone, EleanorStrickland, Captain W. F.
Mitchell, Harold P. (Br'tf'd amp; Chlsw'k)Rawson, Sir CooperStuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham)Reed, Arthur C. (Exeter)Sugden, Sir Wilfrid Hart
Molson, A. Hugh ElsdaleReid, Capt. A. Cunningham.Templeton, William P.
Moore, Lt.-Col. Thomas C. R. (Ayr)Reid, David D. (County Down)Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Morris, Owen Temple (Cardiff, E.)Reid, William Allan (Derby)Thomas, James P. L. (Hereford)
Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh)Rhys, Hon. Charles Arthur U.Thomas, Major L. B. (King's Norton)
Morrison, G. A. (Scottish Univer'ties)Rickards, George WilliamThomson, Sir Douglas
Morrison, William ShepherdRopner, Colonel L.Thorp, Linton Theodora
Moss, Captain H. J.Ross, Ronald D.Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Munro, PatrickRunciman, Rt. Hon. WalterWard, Irene Mary Bewick (Wellsend)
Nation, Brigadier-General J. J. H.Russell, Albert (Kirkcaldy)Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock)
Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth)Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)Wardlaw-Milne, Sir John S.
Nicholson, Rt. Hn. W. G. (Petersf'ld)Russell, R. J. (Eddlsbury)Warrender, Sir Victor A. G.
North, Edward T.Rutherford, John (Edmonton)Waterhouse, Captain Charles
O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Sir HughSamuel, Sir Arthur Michael (F'nham)Wedderburn, Henry James Scrymgeour
Orr Ewing, I. L.Samuel, M. R. A. (W'ds'wth, Putney)Wells, Sidney Richard
Palmer, Francis NoelSanderson, Sir Frank BarnardWhiteside, Borras Noel H.
Peake, OsbertSassoon, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip A. G. D.Williams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Percy, Lord EustaceSavery, ServingtonWilliams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.)
Perkins, Walter R. D.Shakespeare, Geoffrey H.Willoughby de Eresby, Lord
Peters, Dr. Sidney JohnSimon, Rt. Hon. Sir JohnWise, Alfred R.
Petherick, M.Sinclair, Col. T. (Queen's Unv., Belfast)Wolmer, Rt. Hon. Viscount
Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple)Skelton, Archibald NoelWomersley, Sir Walter
Peto, Geoffrey K. (W'verh'pt'n, Bilst'n)Smith, Bracewell (Dulwich)Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir H. Kingsley
Pickthorn, K. W. M.Somervell, Sir DonaldWorthington, Sir John
Pike, Cecil F.Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor)
Potter, JohnSomerville, D. G. (Willesden, East)TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Powell, Lieut.-Col. Evelyn G. H.Southby, Commander Archibald R. J.Sir George Penny and Lieut.-Colonel
Power, Sir John CecilSpencer, Captain Richard A.Sir A. Lambert Ward.
Addison, Rt. Hon. Dr. ChristopherGrenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan)Parkinson, John Allen
Attlee, Rt. Hon. Clement R.Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro', W.)Rea, Sir Walter
Banfield, John WilliamGriffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool)Rothschild, James A. de
Batey, JosephHall, George H. (Merthyr Tydvil)Samuel, Rt. Hon. Sir H. (Darwen)
Bevan, Aneurin (Ebbw Vale)Hamilton, Sir R. W. (Orkney & Zetl'nd)Smith, Tom (Normanton)
Brown, C. W. E. (Notts., Mansfield)Kirkwood, DavidThorne, William James
Buchanan, GeorgeLansbury, Rt. Hon. GeorgeTinker, John Joseph
Cleary, J. J.Logan, David GilbertWedgwood, Rt. Hon. Joslah
Cocks, Frederick SeymourLunn, WilliamWest, F. R.
Daggar, GeorgeMacdonald, Gordon (Ince)White, Henry Graham
Davies, David L. (Pontypridd)McEntee, Valentine L.Williams, Dr. John H. (Llanelly)
Dobbie, WilliamMaclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan)Williams, Thomas (York, Don Valley)
Edwards, Sir CharlesMainwaring, William HenryWilmot, John
George, Major G. Lloyd (Pembroke)Mallalieu, Edward LancelotWood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff)
George, Megan A. Lloyd (Anglesea)Mander, Geoffrey le M.
Gibbins, J.Mason, David M. (Edinburgh, E.)TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Greenwood, Rt. Hon. ArthurMaxton, James.Mr. John and Mr. Paling.