Coal Mines Act.

Oral Answers to Questions — Coal Industry. – in the House of Commons at on 16 May 1933.

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Miss WARD:

11.

asked the Secretary for Mines whether he has received any communication from the Central Council with regard to the amendment of Part I of the Coal Mines Act?

Photo of Mr Roland Robinson Mr Roland Robinson , Widnes

19.

asked the Secretary for Mines whether he will inform the House of the decision arrived at by the Central Council under the coal marketing scheme in regard to the operation of inland and export quotas and the co-ordination of minimum prices; and whether he is prepared to make a statement as to the legislation which will be proposed to the House to give effect to these decisions?

Photo of Mr Ernest Brown Mr Ernest Brown , Leith

I have been informed in writing by the Central Council that at its meeting on the 10th May it was decided to make representations to the Board of Trade with a view to the making of Orders for the purpose of enabling amendments to be made to the Central Scheme to provide for the separation of quotas as between the inland and export trade and inter-district co-ordination of minimum prices. I must defer any statement as to legislation until I have seen the exact form of the representations, which I expect to have shortly.

Photo of Sir Godfrey Nicholson Sir Godfrey Nicholson , Morpeth

Can my hon. Friend say whether one or both of these recommendations had the necessary 85 per cent. Majority?

Photo of Mr Ernest Brown Mr Ernest Brown , Leith

The representations are being made as the result of decisions taken by the owners as a whole.

Photo of Mr George Hall Mr George Hall , Merthyr Tydfil Aberdare

Is the Minister also in communication with the Miners' Federation with regard to amendments of Part I of the Act?

Photo of Mr Ernest Brown Mr Ernest Brown , Leith

At the moment the question refers to the powers of initiation which lie in the Act itself and are the result of the Act.

Photo of Mr George Hall Mr George Hall , Merthyr Tydfil Aberdare

That is not a reply to the question which I put.

Photo of Mr Ernest Brown Mr Ernest Brown , Leith

Surely, that is the answer, because the Act itself provides that the initiative shall lie with the coal-owners who are the body under the Act.

Photo of Mr George Hall Mr George Hall , Merthyr Tydfil Aberdare

May I ask whether the hon. Gentleman is in communication with the Miners' Federation on the matter?

Photo of Mr Ernest Brown Mr Ernest Brown , Leith

At the moment, no. The Council of Coalowners are charged with the working of the Act, and suggested amendments have been discussed for 14 months, and these two amendments are to be the subject of representation.

Photo of Sir Waldron Smithers Sir Waldron Smithers , Chislehurst

Is it not a fact that Part I of the Act is working detrimentally to the coal industry; will the Minister take into consideration the recommendation of the Central Council; and when will he be able to introduce legislation to meet the position?

Photo of Captain John Dickie Captain John Dickie , Consett

Will the Government and the Minister in these negotiations keep in view the vital necessity of giving complete freedom of action to the export section of the industry?

Photo of Mr Ernest Brown Mr Ernest Brown , Leith

The answer is that we shall take all facts into consideration.

Photo of Sir Waldron Smithers Sir Waldron Smithers , Chislehurst

14.

asked the Secretary for Mines whether he will call a conference of coalowners in order to discuss with them what amendments are necessary to remedy the defects in the working of the Coal Mines Act which have emerged after three years' experience of the Act?

Photo of Mr Ernest Brown Mr Ernest Brown , Leith

No, Sir. The Central Council set up under the Coal Mines Act, 1930, is fully representative of all coalowners, and the power of initiating amendments rests with them.

Photo of Sir Waldron Smithers Sir Waldron Smithers , Chislehurst

May I ask the Secretary for Mines whether it is a fact that certain quotas allocated by the Central Council are not being used but held up and not made available to the collieries which could and would use them; and is not this a restraint upon legitimate trade?

Photo of Mr Ernest Brown Mr Ernest Brown , Leith

The supplementary question does not arise out of the question, and I could not debate all the defects or certain defects of the Act at Question Time.

Photo of Mr George Buchanan Mr George Buchanan , Glasgow Gorbals

Arising out of the answer which is to the effect that only mineowners can negotiate, cannot the Minister in pursuance of his duties see that the Miners' Federation which represents the men, who are the human lives in the industry, should have some say in any amendments connected with the Act?

Photo of Mr Ernest Brown Mr Ernest Brown , Leith

The hon. Member may be quite sure that before amendments are made the interests of the men will be fully considered, as they always are.

Photo of Lieut-General Edward Fitzroy Lieut-General Edward Fitzroy , Daventry

The hon. Member must not continue this question any further.