Business of the House.

– in the House of Commons at on 14 June 1932.

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Photo of Mr George Lansbury Mr George Lansbury , Poplar Bow and Bromley

May I ask the Lord President of the Council how far he proposes to go this evening?

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

There is no change in the business as announced on Thursday. We hope to take the National Health Insurance (Contributory Pensions) Bill, Committee stage, and the Report and Third Reading of the Hire Purchase and Small Debt (Scotland) Bill.

Photo of Mr George Lansbury Mr George Lansbury , Poplar Bow and Bromley

How long does the right hon. Gentleman propose to sit, because last night getting as far as we did took up a great deal of time?

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

That shows how dangerous it is to make statements as to one's intentions, because very often a man on this bench proposes and the House disposes.

Photo of Mr George Lansbury Mr George Lansbury , Poplar Bow and Bromley

Does the right hon. Gentleman intend to keep the House very late in order to get the Scottish Bill through?

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

Perhaps I may go as far as this. We certainly intend to get the first Order, but we do not propose to keep the House unduly late over the second.

Photo of Mr James Maxton Mr James Maxton , Glasgow Bridgeton

On Thursday I asked the Prime Minister if he thought two days was an adequate allowance for the Committee stage of this controversial Measure. His view was that it was. The progress made yesterday indicates that it was not a very adequate allowance. The Prime Minister also said that he did not propose to keep the House unduly late upon it, and I think it would be for the convenience of every one if the Lord President of the Council could give some indication of the hour at which he proposes to let the House away assuming that the Committee stage has not been completed.

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

I have said nothing but what was said by the Prime Minister.

The Prime Minister said that he would not propose to keep the House unduly late over the matter of the Hire Purchase and Small Debt (Scotland) Bill, and I entirely agree, as I ought, with the Prime Minister that two Parliamentary days are sufficient time for a discussion of the proposals which, though important, are limited in the Bill before the Committee. I certainly must ask the House to conclude, whatever the hour, the Committee stage of the National Health Insurance and Contributory Pensions Bill.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted, at this day's Sitting, from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House)."—[Mr. Baldwin.]

The House divided: Ayes, 285; Noes, 42.

Division No. 232.]AYES.[3.43 p.m.
Acland-Troyte, Lieut.-ColonelConant, R. J. E.Grattan-Doyle, Sir Nicholas
Adams, Samuel Vyvyan T. (Leeds, W.)Cook, Thomas A.Griffith, F. Kingsley (Middlesbro', W.)
Agnew, Lieut.-Com. P. G.Cooke, DouglasGunston, Captain D. W.
Allen, Lt.-Col J. Sandeman (B'k'nh'd)Cooper, A. DuffGuy, J. C. Morrison
Allen, William (Stoke-on-Trent)Copeland, IdaHacking, Rt. Hon. Douglas H.
Anstruther-Gray, W. J.Craddock. Sir Reginald HenryHales, Harold K.
Applin, Lieut.-Col. Reginald V. K.Cranborne, ViscountHamilton, Sir George (Word)
Aske, Sir Robert WilliamCraven-Ellis, WilliamHamilton, Sir R.W.(Orkney & Z'tl'nd)
Astor, Viscountess (Plymouth, Sutton)Crooke, J. SmedleyHanley, Dennis A.
Atholl, Duchess ofCrookshank, Col. C. do Windt (Bootle)Hartington, Marquess of
Atkinson. CyrilCrossley, A. C.Hartland, George A.
Baillie, Sir Adrian W. M.Cruddas, Lieut.-Colonel BernardHaslam, Sir John (Bolton)
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. StanleyCurry, A. C.Headlam, Lieut.-Col. Cuthbert M.
Balniel, LordDavies, Maj. Geo. F.(Somerset, Yeovil)Heilgers, Captain F. F. A.
Barclay-Harvey, C. M.Davison, Sir William HenryHenderson, Sir Vivian L. (Chelmsf'd)
Barrie, Sir Charles CouparDenman, Hon. R. D.Heneage, Lieut.-Colonel Arthur P
Barton, Capt. Basil KelseyDenville, AlfredHills, Major Rt. Hon. John Waller
Beaumont. M. w. (Bucks, Aylesbury)Despencer-Robertson, Major J. A. F.Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G.
Beaumont, Hon. R.E.B. (Portem'th,C.)Dickie, John P.Holdsworth, Herbert
Betterton, Rt. Hon. Sir Henry B.Donner, P. W.Hope, Sydney (Chester, stalybridge)
Blaker, Sir ReginaldDoran, EdwardHore-Belisha, Leslie
Blindell, JamesDrewe, CedricHornby, Frank
Boulton, W. W.Dugdale, Captain Thomas LionelHorsbrugh, Florence
Bowyer, Capt. Sir George E. W.Duggan, Hubert JohnHoward, Tom Forrest
Boyce, H. LeslieDuncan. James A. L. (Kensington, N.)Howitt, Dr. Altred B.
Braithwaite, J. G. (Hillsborough)Dunglass, LordHudson, Capt. A. U. M.(Hackney, N.)
Briscoe, Capt. Richard GeorgeEden, Robert AnthonyHudson, Robert Spear (Southport)
Broadbent, Colonel JohnElliot, Major Rt. Hon. Walter E.Hume, Sir George Hopwood
Brocklebank, C. E. R.Ellis, Sir R. GeoffreyHunter, Dr. Joseph (Dumfries)
Brown, Ernest (Leith)Elliston, Captain George SampsonHunter, Capt. M. J. (Brigg)
Browne, Captain A. C.Elmley, ViscountHurd, Sir Percy
Buchan-Hepburn, P. G. T.Emmott, Charles E. G. C.Jamieson. Douglas
Burghley, LordEmrys-Evans, P. V.Janner, Barnett
Burnett, John GeorgeErskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare)Jesson, Major Thomas E.
Butler, Richard AustenErskine-Bolst, Capt. C. C. (Blackpool)Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth)
Cadogan, Hon. EdwardEssenhigh, Reginald ClareJones, Lewis (Swansea, West)
Campbell, Edward Taswell (Bromley)Everard, W. LindsayKer, J. Campbell
Campbell-Johnston, MalcolmFalle, Sir Bertram G.Kerr, Hamilton W.
Castlereagh, ViscountFielden, Edward BrocklehurstKirkpatrick, William M.
Cautley, Sir Henry S.Foot, Dingle (Dundee)Knatchbull, Captain Hon. M. H. R.
Cayzer, Sir Charles (Chester, City)Foot, Isaac (Cornwall, Bodmin)Knight, Holford
Cayzer, Maj. Sir H. R. (Prtsmth, S.)Fraser, Captain IanLaw, Sir Alfred
Chalmers, John RutherfordFuller, Captain A. G.Leech, Dr. J. W.
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. Sir J. A. (Birm., W)Ganzoni, Sir JohnLees-Jones, John
Chapman, Col. R. (Houghton-le-Spring)Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir JohnLennox-Boyd, A. T.
Christie, James ArchibaldGledhill, GilbertLevy, Thomas
Clarke, FrankGluckstein, Louis HalleLewis, Oswald
Clayton, Dr. George C.Glyn, Major Ralph G. C.Liddall, Walter S.
Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D.Goff, Sir ParkLindsay, Noel Ker
Colfox, Major William PhilipGraham, Fergus (Cumberland, N.)Lister, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip Cunliffe
Llewellin, Major John J.Patrick, Colin M.Smithers, Waldron
Llewellyn-Jones, FrederickPeake, Captain OsbertSomervell, Donald Bradley
Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hn. G. (Wd, Gr'n)Pearson, William G.Somerville, Annesley A. (Windsor)
Loder, Captain J. de VerePeat, Charles U.Southby, Commander Archibald R. J.
Lovat-Fraser, James AlexanderPerkins, Walter R. D.Spencer, Captain Richard A.
Lumley, Captain Lawrence Ft.Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple)Spender-Clay, Rt. Hon. Herbert H.
Mabane, WilliamPeto, Geoffrey K.(W'verh'pt'n, Blliton)Stanley, Hon. O. F. G. (Westmorland)
MacAndrew, Maj. C. G. (Partick)Pickering, Ernest H.Stevenson, James
MacAndrew, Capt. J. O. (Ayr)Pike, Cecil F.Storty, Samuel
McEwen, Captain J. H. F.Potter, JohnStourton, Hon. John J.
McKeag, WilliamProcter, Major Henry AdamStrauss, Edward A.
Maclay, Hon. Joseph PatonRamsay, Capt. A. H. M. (Midlothian)Strickland, Captain W. F.
McLean, Major AlanRamsay, T. B. W. (Western Isles)Stuart, Lord C. Crichton-
McLean, Dr. W. H. (Tradeston)Ramsbotham, HerwaldStuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Macquisten, Frederick AlexanderRamsden, E.Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray F.
Magnay, ThomasRathbone, EleanorSummersby, Charles H.
Maitland, AdamRea, Walter RussellTaylor, Vice-Admiral E.A.(P'dd'gt'n, S.)
Makins, Brigadier-General Ernest Reed, Arthur C. (Exeter)Thomas, Rt. Hon. J. H. (Derby)
Mallalieu, Edward LancelotReid, Capt. A. CunninghamThomas, James P L. (Hereford)
Mander, Geoffrey le M.Reid, David D. (County Down)Thompson, Luke
Manningham-Buller, Lt.-Col. Sir M.Reid, William Allan (Derby)Titchfield, Major the Marquess of
Margesson, Capt. Henry David R.Remer, John R.Touche, Gordon Cosmo
Martin, Thomas B.Roberts. Aled (Wrexham)Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Mellor, Richard JamesRosbotham, S. T.Turton, Robert Hugh
Millar, Sir James DuncanRoss, Ronald D.Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon
Mills, Major J. D. (New Forest)Ross Taylor, Walter (Woodbridge)Wallace, John (Dunfermline)
Milne, CharlesRuggles-Brise, Colonel E. A.Ward, Lt.-Col. Sir A. L. (Hull)
Milne, Sir John S. Wardlaw-Russell, Albert (Kirkcaldy)Ward, Irene Mary Bewick (Wallsend)
Mitchell, Harold P.(Br'tf'd & Chisw'k)Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)Ward, Sarah Adelaide (Cannock)
Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham)Rutherford, Sir John HugoWarrender, Sir Victor A. G.
Moore, Lt.-Col. Thomas C. R. (Ayr)Salmon, Major IsidoreWatt, Captain George Steven H.
Morris, John Patrick (Salford, N.)Salt, Edward W.Weymouth, Viscount
Morris-Jones, Dr. J. H. (Denbigh)Samuel, Sir Arthur Michael (F'nham)White Henry Graham
Moss, Captain H. J.Sandeman, Sir A. N. StewartWhiteside, Borras Noel H.
Muirhead, Major A. J.Savery, Samuel ServingtonWilliams, Charles (Devon, Torquay)
Munro, PatrickScone, LordWilliams, Herbert G. (Croydon, S.)
Nail-Cain, Arthur Ronald N.Shakespeare, Geoffrey H.Wills, Wilfrid D.
Nation, Brigadler-General J. J. H.Shaw, Helen B. (Lanark, Bothwell)Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel George
Nicholson, Godfrey (Morpeth)Shepperson, Sir Ernest W.Winterton, Rt. Hon. Earl
Nicholson, Rt. Hn. W. G. (Petersf'ld)Simmonds, Oliver EdwinWomersley, Walter James
Normand, Wilfrid GuildSinclair, Maj. Rt. Hn. Sir A.(C'thness)Wood, Sir Murdoch McKenzie (Banff)
North, Captain Edward T,Skelton, Archibald NoelWorthington, Dr. John V.
Nunn, WilliamSlater, JohnYoung, Rt. Hon. Sir Hilton (S'v'noaks)
O'Connor, Terence JamesSmiles, Lieut.-Col. Sir Walter D.
O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Sir HughSmith, Bracewell (Dulwich)TELLERS FOR THE AYES.
Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. William G.A.Smith-Carington, Neville W.Sir Frederick Thomson and Sir George Penny.
NOES.
Adams, D. M. (Poplar, South)Grundy, Thomas W.Maclean, Neil (Glasgow, Govan)
Attlee, Clement RichardHall, F. (York, W.R., Normanton)Maxton, James
Batey, JosephHall, George H (Merthyr Tydvil)Milner, Major James
Buchanan, GeorgeHirst, George HenryParkinson, John Allen
Cape, ThomasJenkins. Sir WilliamSalter, Dr. Alfred
Cocks, Frederick SeymourJohn, WilliamThorne, William James
Cripps, Sir StaffordJones, J. J. (West Ham, Silvertown)Tinker, John Joseph
Daggar, GeorgeJones, Morgan (Caerphilly)Wallhead, Richard C.
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton)Kirkwood, DavidWilliams, David (Swansea, East)
Duncan, Charles (Derby, Claycross)Lansbury, Rt. Hon. GeorgeWilliams, Edward John (Ogmore)
Edwards, CharlesLawson, John JamesWilliams, Dr. John H. (Llanelly)
Graham, D. M. (Lanark, Hamilton)Leonard, WilliamWilliams, Thomas (York, Don Valley)
Greenwood, Rt. Hon. ArthurLogan, David Gilbert
Grenfell, David Rees (Glamorgan)Lunn, WilliamTELLERS FOR THE NOES.
Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool)McGovern, JohnMr. Gordon Macdonald and Mr. Groves.