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Oral Answers to Questions — Unemployment. – in the House of Commons on 24th September 1931.

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Photo of Mr James Ede Mr James Ede , South Shields

6.

asked the Minister of Labour how many unemployed persons are registered at South Shields, and how many of these have drawn 26 or more weeks' benefit during the present benefit year, giving the figures for the last week for which both sets are available or for which a reliable estimate can be made?

Photo of Mr George Isaacs Mr George Isaacs , Southwark North

9.

asked the Minister of Labour how many of the present recipients of benefit at the Borough Employment Exchange are receiving transitional benefit; and if the whole of such cases are to be remitted to the public assistance committees for examination as to means?

Photo of Mr Cecil Wilson Mr Cecil Wilson , Sheffield, Attercliffe

10.

asked the Minister of Labour the number of persons receiving benefit at the Sheffield and Attercliffe Employment Exchanges, respectively, at the last available date and the number receiving transitional benefit; and whether he can give any estimate as to the number likely to be referred to the public assistance committee when the proposed change first comes into operation and also three months later?

Photo of Mr Edward Williams Mr Edward Williams , Ogmore

14.

asked the Minister of Labour the number of persons in receipt of transitional benefit in Glamorganshire and Monmouthshire separately?

Photo of Sir Charles Edwards Sir Charles Edwards , Bedwellty

16.

asked the Minister of Labour the number of unemployed in receipt of benefit in the counties of Monmouth and Glamorgan, separately; the average weekly amount paid to each insured person; the number of those in receipt of transitional benefit at present; and the estimated number of those who will have completed their standard benefit and passed to the transitional stage for the months of October, November and December, respectively?

Photo of Mr William Egan Mr William Egan , Birkenhead West

17.

asked the Minister of Labour how many unemployed men and women are receiving transitional benefit at Birkenhead Employment Exchange; and whether all those cases will be referred to the public assistance committee for a means test?

Photo of Mr Fred Marshall Mr Fred Marshall , Sheffield, Brightside

19.

asked the Minister of Labour the number of persons in the city of Sheffield receiving transitional benefit who will, under the new regulations, be referred to the public assistance committee for assessment of means?

Photo of Mr Tom Smith Mr Tom Smith , Pontefract

20.

asked the Minister of Labour the number of persons registered at Pontefract, Castleford and Goole Employment Exchanges at the latest available date; and the number who will be transferred to the public assistance committees for calculation of benefit when the new proposals come into operation?

Photo of Mr James Milner Mr James Milner , Leeds South East

23.

asked the Minister of Labour the number of persons (men, women, boys and girls) registered as unemployed in the city of Leeds to the latest convenient date, and the number who are at present in receipt of transitional benefit in the same area whose cases will be referred forthwith to the public assistance committee under the National Economy Act?

Photo of Sir Henry Betterton Sir Henry Betterton , Rushcliffe

I am having the figures extracted and hope to circulate the answers in the OFFICIAL REPORT to-morrow morning.

Photo of Mr James Ede Mr James Ede , South Shields

Has the hon. Gentleman entered into communication with public assistance committees in places like South Shields to ascertain how long they think it will take them to deal with the application of a needs test to the large number of people involved?

Photo of Mr Robert Richardson Mr Robert Richardson , Houghton-le-Spring

Will the hon. Gentleman give separately the numbers who reside outside the borough of South Shields and register there?

Photo of Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy , Kingston upon Hull Central

Can we have papers laid showing the facts in all the areas?

Photo of Sir Henry Betterton Sir Henry Betterton , Rushcliffe

I shall not only be very glad, but it will be my duty to give the figures after they have been extracted with regard to any areas, and, if the hon. and gallant Member desires, Hull.

Photo of Mr Tom Smith Mr Tom Smith , Pontefract

Can the hon. Gentleman say whether public assistance committees in assessing the incomes of unemployed persons will take into account disability pensions; and whether he is aware that dissatisfaction exists in some branches of the British Legion regarding this matter?

Photo of Sir Henry Betterton Sir Henry Betterton , Rushcliffe

There is another question on that point.

Photo of Mr James Ede Mr James Ede , South Shields

Will the hon. Gentleman arrange that the figures shall he available for hon. Members to-morrow, so that they can take them to their constituencies where they have to meet public assistance committees?

Photo of Sir Henry Betterton Sir Henry Betterton , Rushcliffe

Yes, I had that in mind. This involves a great deal of labour, but I will make every endeavour to get these figures into the OFFICIAL. REPORT by to-morrow morning.

Photo of Mr Thomas Williams Mr Thomas Williams , Don Valley

12.

asked the Minister of Labour how many unemployed persons will be transferred to the transition class as a result of the terms outlined in the White Paper 3952; and what will be the total number in the transition class according to the latest estimate?

Photo of Mr Jack Lawson Mr Jack Lawson , Chester-le-Street

25.

asked the Minister of Labour the total number of persons on transition benefit, including those who will come on transition under the operation of the new 26 weeks benefit rule, whose cases will have to be investigated by the public assistance authorities?

Photo of Sir Henry Betterton Sir Henry Betterton , Rushcliffe

Figures obtained in respect of 14th September, 1931, show that on that date about 377,000 persons (of whom about 80,000 were women) in receipt of benefit other than transitional benefit had received 156 days' benefit or more in their current benefit years. In addition there were at 24th August, 1931, about 475,000 persons (of whom 101,000, were women) with claims authorised for transitional benefit. Tre total number in these two classes was therefore approximately 852,000 of whom 181,000 were women.

Photo of Mr Thomas Williams Mr Thomas Williams , Don Valley

Has any estimate been obtained of the cost of the inquisition into the means of these 900,000 people?

Photo of Sir Henry Betterton Sir Henry Betterton , Rushcliffe

That is quite another question.

Photo of Mr Jack Lawson Mr Jack Lawson , Chester-le-Street

Have any discussions taken place with the public assistance committees as to how they are going to handle these large numbers of people?

Photo of Sir Henry Betterton Sir Henry Betterton , Rushcliffe

We have every reason to believe that the public assistance committees will be quite capable of dealing with the work.

Photo of Mr Thomas Williams Mr Thomas Williams , Don Valley

Are we to understand that the public assistance committees have been notified that the numbers will be approximately 900,000?

Photo of Sir Henry Betterton Sir Henry Betterton , Rushcliffe

They will have been notified, because figures have already been given—the figure of 377,000 in reply to a question by the hon. Member for Chester-le-Street (Mr. Lawson) and the other figures, which are less than those estimated by my predecessor, have been given in the Ministry of Labour Gazette.

Photo of Mr Thomas Williams Mr Thomas Williams , Don Valley

Has any estimate of the cost of the inquisition been produced? If so, may we know the figure?

Photo of Sir Henry Betterton Sir Henry Betterton , Rushcliffe

No, Sir, it is impossible at this stage to tell the cost.

Photo of Mr Jack Lawson Mr Jack Lawson , Chester-le-Street

This is a rather important matter, because we are laying a great burden on the public assistance committees, and probably at some cost to them. Has there been any direct communication with the public assistance committees as to whether they will agree to undertake these duties?

Photo of Sir Henry Betterton Sir Henry Betterton , Rushcliffe

I think I see now what is in the hon. Gentleman's mind. The additional cost to the public assistance committees will be borne by the Exchequer and not by the public assistance committees.

Photo of Mr David Logan Mr David Logan , Liverpool Scotland

Will the hon. Gentleman guarantee that not co-opted members of the public assistance committees, but elected guardians shall deal with these cases?