– in the House of Commons at on 7 May 1930.
Sir Richard Wells
, Bedford
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether any representations have been received from the judicial adviser as to the effect of the proposal to transfer to the mixed courts in Egypt the right of veto over legislation which discriminates against Europeans?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
Yes, Sir. As my right hon. Friend informed the hon. and gallant Member for Howdenshire on 17th April, the High Commissioner has had the advantage of Mr. Booth's advice on all points arising from the proposals which are now being discussed.
Mr John Wardlaw-Milne
, Kidderminster
Is it the case that there will be a right of veto or, if the Treaty proposals were passed, would it be possible for legislation discriminating against certain Europeans to be passed?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
It is clearly undesirable that I should answer questions at this moment on details connected with Anglo-Egyptian negotiations. There is a later question on the Paper to which I shall return a general reply.
Mr Edward Marjoribanks
, Eastbourne
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether, in the proposals for the treaty with Egypt, a term is proposed to be included defining the attitude of Great Britain in the event of Intervention in the internal affairs of Egypt by a foreign Power?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
Any treaty which is concluded will be submitted to the House before it is ratified, and the House will then have a fresh opportunity of discussing its terms. Meanwhile, my right hon. Friend cannot think it would be in the public interest to give specific answers to questions of this nature.
Mr Edward Marjoribanks
, Eastbourne
In any event, will the Government regard Intervention by a foreign Power as an unfriendly act, and is that consistent with a reply given by the Foreign Secretary the other day when he said that Italy could be expected to look after her own interests in Egypt?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
I have nothing to add to the carefully considered answer I have just given.
Earl WINTERTON:
In the answer in which the Foreign Secretary said Italy could be trusted to look after her own interests, did he imply that Italy had a right of Intervention in the case of certain matters arising?
Mr John Wardlaw-Milne
, Kidderminster
If the hon. Gentleman is not prepared to give an answer to a detailed question—I do not want to press that—surely we are entitled to know whether these points are being considered or not?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
All relevant points are being considered in connection with the treaty.
Mr Edward Marjoribanks
, Eastbourne
Has the Italian Government been consulted in any way on these aspects of the treaty?
Mr John Wardlaw-Milne
, Kidderminster
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs the latest figures as to the population of foreigners in Egypt; and to what extent have the Governments of foreign nations so represented been consulted in connection with the proposals put forward in the offer to Egypt set out in the white paper of last year?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
As the answer to the first part of this question contains a number of figures, I propose, with the hon. Member's permission, to circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPORT. As regards the second part, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply returned to the hon. Member for Bedford (Mr. Wells) on 17th April, to which I have nothing to add.
Mr John Wardlaw-Milne
, Kidderminster
I do not wish in any way to press the hon. Gentleman to give those figures now, but is it not a fact that there are a certain number of European nationalities who have more nationals in Egypt than there are British, and in that case is it not very desirable that these other countries so represented should be consulted?
According to the Census of 1917, which is the latest information available, the figures for the foreign population in Egypt are as follow:
| Greek | … | … | … | 56,731 |
| Italian | … | … | … | 40,198 |
| British | … | … | … | 24,354 |
| French | … | … | … | 21,270 |
| Russian | … | … | … | 4,225 |
| Austrian | … | … | … | 2,789 |
| Spanish | … | … | … | 1,693 |
| Persian | … | … | … | 1,496 |
| Rumanian | … | … | … | 895 |
| Dutch | … | … | … | 706 |
| Swiss | … | … | … | 622 |
| Belgian | … | … | … | 518 |
| American | … | … | … | 514 |
| Bulgarian | … | … | … | 246 |
| Danish | … | … | … | 157 |
| German | … | … | … | 157 |
| Portuguese | … | … | … | 147 |
| Swedish | … | … | … | 88 |
| Abyssinian | … | … | … | 60 |
| Norwegian | … | … | … | 25 |
Lieut-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert James
, Bromley
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether any conditions are being put forward limiting the numbers and armament of the Egyptian Army under the régime to be created by the draft Egyptian Treaty?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
No, Sir; no such conditions appear in the proposals for an Anglo-Egyptian settlement, which my right hon. Friend submitted to this House last August.
Lieut-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert James
, Bromley
Does it occur to the hon. Gentleman that the fact that these conditions are not being raised is reasonable in view of the declared policy of His Majesty's Government?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
I cannot at this moment add anything to the statement I have already made on the subject of Anglo-Egyptian relations.
Mr Charles Waterhouse
, Leicester South
Are we to understand that the conditions set up last autumn are going to be meticulously stuck to in every detail?
Mr John Wardlaw-Milne
, Kidderminster
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will now make a statement as to the position of the negotiations with the Egyptian representatives?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
The negotiations, which were resumed on Monday evening, are continuing. My right hon. Friend hopes to be in a position to make a statement to-morrow.
Mr John Gretton
, Burton
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if the Agreement discussed with the Egyptian delegation provides that the decisions of the Mixed Tribunals shall be upheld and cannot be set on one side by the Egyptian Government or by decisions of the Egyptian Native Courts?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
No, Sir. The present negotiations are not concerned with the decisions of the Mixed Tribunals, which are established in virtue of agreements between the Egyptian Government and the Capitulatory Powers.
Mr John Gretton
, Burton
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if a commercial treaty is provided for in the agreement discussed with the Egyptian delegation; and if any special terms are contemplated for British contracts and British imports into Egypt as some consideration for the proposals to which the British Government is prepared to agree?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
No, Sir. The question of a Commercial Treaty has not yet been raised.
Mr John Gretton
, Burton
Before an agreement is come to, will the question of a commercial treaty be raised?
Mr Hugh Dalton
, Camberwell Peckham
As I have previously said, I do not think it is desirable at this moment, in answer to supplementary questions, to give details of various matters which may be under discussion by the Anglo-Egyptian Conference.
Mr Archibald Skelton
, Perth
Are we to understand that the hon. Member regards the question of a general commercial treaty as a matter of detail?
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