Oral Answers to Questions — Irish Free State (Ex-British Civil Servants).

– in the House of Commons at on 29 April 1929.

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Photo of Sir William Davison Sir William Davison , Kensington South

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asked the Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs whether all ex-British civil servants in the Irish Free State who have retired under Article X. of the Anglo-Irish Treaty have now received the compensation to which they have been held to be entitled by the judgment of the Privy Council in the Wigg and Cochrane case; what are the total numbers of such persons who have received compensation; what are the numbers, if any, of those who are still awaiting payment of compensation; and the reason for the delay in making payment?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel Leo Amery Lieut-Colonel Leo Amery , Birmingham Sparkbrook

Warrants for the payment of additional compensation, on the basis of the judgment in the Wigg-Cochrane case, have been issued in 1,036 cases. I understand that four cases are still outstanding for the following reasons: In one case the pensioner is insane and an order of the Court is awaited; in another the pensioner is dead and probate of the will is not complete; in the two remaining cases the officers' present addresses are not known.

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