– in the House of Commons at on 13 March 1929.
Mr Ramsay Macdonald
, Aberavon
Could the Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury state what is to be the business on Friday?
Sir Bolton Eyres-Monsell
, Evesham
The business on Friday will be the remaining stages of the Industrial Assurance and Friendly Societies Bill; Report stage of Supplementary Estimates for Lord Mayor's Fund and Relief in Distressed Mining Areas in Scotland; Second Reading of the Doncaster Area Drainage Bill, and of the Factory and Workshop (Cotton Cloth Factories) Bill [Lords]; and, if there is time, other Orders on the Paper.
| Division No. 265.] | AYES. | [3.38 p.m. |
| Albery, Irving James | Brass, Captain W. | Christle, J. A. |
| Allen, Sir J. Sandeman | Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William Clive | Churchman, Sir Arthur C. |
| Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold E. M. S. | Briggs, J. Harold | Cobb, Sir Cyril |
| Applin, Colonel R. V. K. | Briscoe, Richard George | Colfox, Major Wm. Phillips |
| Apsley, Lord | Brittain, Sir Harry | Conway, Sir W. Martin |
| Ashley, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Wilfrid W. | Brocklebank, C. E. R. | Cooper, A. Dull |
| Astor, Maj. Hn. John J. (Kent, Dover) | Brooke, Brigadier-General C. R. I. | Cope, Major Sir William |
| Astor, Viscountess | Brown, Col. D. C. (N'th'l'd., Hexham) | Courtauld, Major J. S. |
| Balniel, Lord | Brown, Brig.-Gen. H.C. (Berks, Newb'y) | Crookshank, Cpt. H. (Lindsey, Gainsbro) |
| Barclay-Harvey, C. M. | Bullock, Captain M. | Davies, Sir Thomas (Cirencester) |
| Beamish, Rear-Admiral T. P. H. | Burman, J. B. | Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.) |
| Beckett, Sir Gervase (Leeds, N.) | Burton, Colonel H. W. | Eden, Captain Anthony |
| Bellairs, Commander CarlyoR | Campbell, E. T. | Edmondson, Major A. J. |
| Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake) | Carver, Major W. H. | Elliot, Major Walter E. |
| Bentinck, Lord Henry Oavendish. | Cautley, Sir Henry S. | Ellis, R. G. |
| Berry, Sir George | Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City) | England, Colonel A. |
| Betterton, Henry B. | Cazalet, Captain Victor A. | Erskine, Lord (Somerset, Weston-s.-M.) |
| Blundell, F. N. | Chadwick, Sir Robert Burton | Erskine, James Malcolm Monteith |
| Bowater, Col. Sir T. Vansittart | Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. Sir J.A. (Birm., W.) | Fairfax, Captain J. G. |
| Bowyer, Captain G. E. W. | Charteris, Brigadier-General J. | Falle, Sir Bertram G. |
| Fielden, E. B. | Locker-Lampson, Com. O. (Handsw'th) | Ross, R. D. |
| Forestier-Walker, Sir L. | Loder, J. de V. | Ruggies-Brise, Lieut-Colonel E. A. |
| Foster, Sir Harry S. | Lougher, Sir Lewis | Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth) |
| Fraser, Captain Ian | Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh Vere | Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham) |
| Framartle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E. | Luce, Maj.-Gen. Sir Richard Harman | Sandeman, N. Stewart |
| Ganzonl, Sir John | Lumley, L. R. | Sanders, Sir Robert A. |
| Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir John | MacAndrew, Major Charles Glen | Sandon, Lord |
| Glyn, Major R. G. C. | MacIntyre, Ian | Savory, S. S. |
| Grattan-Doyle, Sir N. | McLean, Major A. | Shepperson, E. W. |
| Grotrian, H. Brent | Macmillan, Captain H. | Simms, Dr. John M. (Co. Down) |
| Guinness, Rt. Hon. Walter E. | Makins, Brigadier-General E. | Smithers, Waldron |
| Gunston, Captain D. W. | Manningham-Buller, Sir Mervyn | Somerville, A. A. (Windsor) |
| Hall, Capt. W. D'A. (Brecon & Rad.) | Margesson, Captain D. | Southby, Commander A. R. J. |
| Hamilton, Sir George | Marriott, Sir J. A. R. | Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G. F. |
| Hannon, Patrick Joseph Henry | Meyer, Sir Frank | Steel, Major Samuel Strang |
| Harrison, G. J. C. | Mitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark) | Streatfeild, Captain S. R. |
| Hartington, Marquess of | Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden) | Stuart, Crichton-, Lord C. |
| Harvey, Major S. E. (Devon, Totnes) | Mitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham) | Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Naira) |
| Haslam, Henry C. | Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M. | Styles, Captain H. Walter |
| Headlam, Lieut.-Colonel C. M. | Moore, Sir Newton J. | Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser |
| Henderson, Capt. R. R. (Oxf'd, Henley) | Morrison, H. (Wilts, Salisbury) | Thompson, Luke (Sunderland) |
| Henn, Sir Sydney H | Morrison-Bell, Sir Arthur Clive | Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell. |
| Hills, Majar John Waller | Murchison, Sir Kenneth | Titchfield, Major the Marquess of |
| Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G. | Nelson, Sir Frank | Vaughan-Morgan, Sir Kenyon |
| Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.) | Nicholson, Col. Rt. Hn. W. G. (Ptrst'ld.) | Wallace, Captain D. E. |
| Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar) | Nield, Rt. Hon. Sir Herbert | Ward, Lt.-Col. A. L. (Kinoston-on-Hull) |
| Hopkinson, Sir A. (Eng. Universities) | Oakley, T. | Warner, Brigadier-General W. W. |
| Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley) | Oman, Sir Charles William C. | Warrender, Sir Victor |
| Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K. | Percy, Lord Eustace (Hastings) | Watson, Sir F. (Pudsey and Otley) |
| Hume, Sir G. H. | Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple) | Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle) |
| Hurst, Sir Gerald | Peto, G. (Somerset, Frame) | Watts, Sir Thomas |
| Iliffe, Sir Edward M. | Plicher, G. | Wells, S. R. |
| Iveagh, Countess of | Pliditch, Sir Philip | Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern) |
| Jackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth, Cen'l) | Power, Sir John Cecil | Williams, Herbert G. (Reading) |
| James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. Cuthbert | Pownall, Sir Assheton | Womersley, W. J. |
| Joynson-Hicks, Rt. Hon. Sir William | Preston, William | Wood, Rt. Hon. Sir Kingsley |
| King, Commodore Henry Douglas | Raine, Sir Walter | Woodcock, Colonel H. C. |
| Kinloch-Cooke, Sir Clement | Ramsden, E. | Wright, Brig.-General W. D. |
| Knox. Sir Alfred | Reid, Capt. Cunningham (Warrington) | Yerburgh, Major Robert D. T. |
| Lamb, J. O. | Rhys, Hon. C. A. U. | Young, Rt. Hon. Hilton (Norwich) |
| Lister, Cunliffe, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip | Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y) | |
| Lloyd, Cyril E. (Dudley) | Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell | TELLERS FOR THE AYES.— |
| Locker-Lampson, Rt. Hon. Godfrey | Ropner, Major L. | Major Sir George Hennessy and Sir Frederick Thomson. |
| NOES. | ||
| Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro') | Hore-Bellsha, Leslie | Shiels, Dr. Drummond |
| Ammon, Charles George | Jenkins, W. (Glamorgan, Neath) | Shinwell, E. |
| Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bliston) | Jones, T. I. Mardy (Pontypridd) | Short. Alfred (Wednesday) |
| Beckett, John (Gateshead) | Kelly, W. T. | Sinclair, Major Sir A. (Caithness) |
| Benn, Wedgwood | Kennedy, T. | Sitch, Charles H. |
| Bowerman, Rt. Hon. Charles W. | Lansbury, George | Smillie, Robert |
| Bromfield, William | Lawrence, Susan | Smith, Rennie (Peristone) |
| Brown, James (Ayr and Bute) | Lawson, John James | Snell, Harry |
| Cape, Thomas | Lee, F. | Snowden, Rt. hon Philip |
| Charleton, H. C. | Longbottom, A. W. | Stamford, T. W. |
| Clarke, A. B. | Lowth, T. | Stewart, J. (St. Rollox) |
| Cluse, W. S. | Lunn, William | Sullivan, Joseph |
| Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R. | MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R. (Aberavon) | Sutton, J. E. |
| Connolly, M. | MacLaren, Andrew | Taylor R. A. |
| Dalton, Hugh | MacNeill-Weir, L. | Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby) |
| Dalton, Ruth (Bishop Auckland) | March, S. | Thomas, Sir Robert John (Anglesey) |
| Day, Harry | Mitchell, E. Rosslyn (Paisley) | Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow) |
| Dennison, R. | Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.) | Tinker, John Joseph |
| Dunnico, H. | Mosley, Sir Oswald | Tomilnson, R. P. |
| Edge, Sir William | Murnin, H. | Townend, A. E. |
| Fenby, T. D. | Oliver, George Harold | Webb, Rt. Hon. Sidney |
| Gardner, J. P. | Palin, John Henry | Wedgwood, Rt. Hon. Josiah |
| Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edin., Cent.) | Paling, W. | Wellock. Wilfred |
| Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne) | Pethick-Lawrence, F. W | Welsh J. C. |
| Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan) | Ponsonby, Arthur | Whiteley, W. |
| Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool) | Potts, John S. | Wiggins, William Martin |
| Groves, T. | Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring) | Williams, T. (York, Don Valley) |
| Grundy, T. W. | Riley, Ben | Wilson, R. J. (Jarrow) |
| Hamilton. Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland) | Ritson, J. | Windsor, Walter |
| Harris, Percy A. | Scrymgeour, E. | |
| Hayday, Arthur | Shaw, Rt. Hon. Thomas (Preston) | TELLERS FOR THE NOES.— |
| Hirst, G. H. | Shield, G. W. | Mr. Charles Edwards and Mr. Hayes. |
Question put, and agreed to.
The Second Reading is the most important stage for a Bill. It is when the main purpose of a Bill is discussed and voted on. If the Bill passes it moves on to the Committee Stage. Further information can be obtained from factsheet L1 on the UK Parliament website.
The House of Commons votes by dividing. Those voting Aye (yes) to any proposition walk through the division lobby to the right of the Speaker and those voting no through the lobby to the left. In each of the lobbies there are desks occupied by Clerks who tick Members' names off division lists as they pass through. Then at the exit doors the Members are counted by two Members acting as tellers. The Speaker calls for a vote by announcing "Clear the Lobbies". In the House of Lords "Clear the Bar" is called. Division Bells ring throughout the building and the police direct all Strangers to leave the vicinity of the Members’ Lobby. They also walk through the public rooms of the House shouting "division". MPs have eight minutes to get to the Division Lobby before the doors are closed. Members make their way to the Chamber, where Whips are on hand to remind the uncertain which way, if any, their party is voting. Meanwhile the Clerks who will take the names of those voting have taken their place at the high tables with the alphabetical lists of MPs' names on which ticks are made to record the vote. When the tellers are ready the counting process begins - the recording of names by the Clerk and the counting of heads by the tellers. When both lobbies have been counted and the figures entered on a card this is given to the Speaker who reads the figures and announces "So the Ayes [or Noes] have it". In the House of Lords the process is the same except that the Lobbies are called the Contents Lobby and the Not Contents Lobby. Unlike many other legislatures, the House of Commons and the House of Lords have not adopted a mechanical or electronic means of voting. This was considered in 1998 but rejected. Divisions rarely take less than ten minutes and those where most Members are voting usually take about fifteen. Further information can be obtained from factsheet P9 at the UK Parliament site.
