Clause 18. — (Rates relating to transferred functions.)

Orders of the Day — Local Government (Scotland) Bill. – in the House of Commons at on 8 February 1929.

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Amendments made:

In page 23, leave out from the word "of," in line 1, to the end of the Subsection, and insert instead thereof the words "a special district rate."

In line 13, leave out the word "levi-able," and insert instead thereof the words "to be levied."

In page 23, leave out from the word "rate" in line 20, to the end of the Subsection, and insert instead thereof the words: to be levied for the purpose in accordance with the provisions of this Act and the provisions of the said Acts relative to the foresaid expenses shall cease to have effect: provided that nothing in this Sub-section shall prevent a county or town council from recovering from the council of the area of the settlement of a lunatic or mental defective the expenses incurred by them in relation to such lunatic or mental defective.

In line 36, leave out Sub-section (6).—[Sir J. Gilmour.]

Question put, "That the Clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill."

The Committee divided: Ayes, 164:

Bullock, Captain M.Hills, Major John WallerRawson, Sir Cooper
Campbell, E. T.Hilton, CecilReid, Capt. Cunningham (Warrington)
Carver, Major W. H.Hoare, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir S. J. G.Remer, J. R.
Cautley, Sir Henry S.Hope, Capt. A. O. J. (Warw'k, Nun.)Rhys, Hon. C. A. U.
Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City)Hope, Sir Harry (Forfar)Richardson, Sir P. W. (Sur'y, Ch'ts'y)
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Sir Evelyn (Aston)Hopkins, J. W. W.Rodd, Rt. Hon. Sir James Rennell
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood)Hopkinson, Sir A. (Eng. Universities)Ross, R. D.
Chapman, Sir S.Howard-Bury, Colonel C. K.Rye, F. G.
Charteris, Brigadier-General J.Hudson, Capt. A. U. M.(Hackney, N.)Salmon, Major I.
Clayton, G. C.Hume, Sir G. H.Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Cobb, Sir CyrilHunter-Weston, Lt.-Gen. Sir AylmerSandeman, N. Stewart
Cochrane, Commander Hon. A. D.Hurst, Gerald B.Savery, S. S.
Colman, N. C. D.lveagh, Countess ofShaw, Lt.-Col. A. D. Mcl. (Renfrew, W)
Cooper, A. DuffJackson, Sir H. (Wandsworth. Cen'l)Skelton, A. N.
Courthope, Colonel Sir G. L.James, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. CuthbertSmith, Louis W. (Sheffield, Hallam)
Cowan, Sir Wm. Henry (Islington, N.)Joynson-Hicks, Rt. Hon. Sir WilliamSmith, R.W. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dlne, C.)
Craig, Sir Ernest (Chester, Crewe)Kennedy, A. R. (Preston).Smith-Carington, Neville W.
Crookshank, Col. C. de W. (Berwick)King, Commodore Henry DouglasSmithers, Waldron
Dalkeith, Earl ofKinloch-Cooke, Sir ClementSomerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Davies, Sir Thomas (Cirencester)Knox, Sir AlfredSouthby, Commander A. R. J.
Dawson, Sir PhilipLister, Cunliffe, Rt. Hon. Sir PhilipSpender-Clay, Colonel H.
Eden, Captain AnthonyLoder, J. de V.Stanley, Lieut.-Colonel Rt. Hon. G. F.
Edmondson. Major A. J.Looker, Herbert WilliamSteel, Major Samuel Strang
Elliot, Major Walter E.Lougher, LewisStorry- Deans. R.
Everard, w. LindsayLuce, Maj.-Gen. Sir Richard HarmanStreatfeild. Captain S. R.
Fairfax, Captain J. G.Lumley, L. R.Stuart, Crlchton-, Lord C.
Falle, Sir Bertram G.Macdonald, R. (Glasgow, Catheart)Stuart, Hon. J. (Moray and Nairn)
Fanshawe, Captain G. D.Maclntyre, IanSueter, Rear-Admiral Murray Fraser
Ford, Sir P. J.McLean, Major A.Sugden, Sir Wilfrid
Forrest, W.Macquisten, F. A.Thomson, Rt. Hon. Sir W. Mitchell,
Fraser, Captain IanMacRobert, Alexander M.Tltchfleld, Major the Marquess of
Frece, Sir Walter deMilone. Major P. B.Tryon, Rt. Hon. George Clement
Fremantle, Lieut.-Colonel Francis E.Manningham-Buller, Sir MervynVaughan-Morgan, Col. K. P.
Gadie, Lieut.-Col. AnthonyMarriott, Sir J. A. R.Ward. Lt.-Col.A.L.(Klngston-on-Hull)
Ganzonl, Sir JohnMerriman, Sir F. BoydWarner, Brigadier-General W. W.
Gilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir JohnMitchell, S. (Lanark, Lanark)Warrender, Sir Victor
Glyn, Major R. G. C.Mitchell, W. Foot (Saffron Walden)Watson, Rt. Hon. W. (Carlisle)
Goff, Sir ParkMitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham)Wayland, Sir William A.
Grattan-Doyle, Sir N.Monsell, Eyres, Com. Rt. Hon. B. M.Wells, S. R.
Greaves-Lord, Sir WalterMoore, Lieut.-Colonel T. R. C. (Ayr)White, Lieut.-Col. Sir G. Dairymple-
Greenwood, Rt.Hn.Sir H. (W'th's'w, E)Moore, Sir Newton J.Williams, A. M. (Cornwall, Northern)
Hall. Capt. W. D'A. (Brecon & Rad.)Moreing, Captain A. H.Williams, Herbert G. (Reading)
Hamilton, sir GeorgeNelson, Sir FrankWomersley, W. J.
Hammersley, S. S.Nicholson. Col. Rt. Hn.W.G. (Ptrsf'ld.)Wood, B. C. (Somerset, Bridgwater)
Harvey, G. (Lambeth Kennington)Ormsby-Gore, Rt. Hon. WilliamWood, Sir S. Hill. (High Peak)
Headiam. Lieut-Colonel C. M.Penny, Frederick GeorgeWorthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Henderson. Capt. R. R (Oxf'd, Henley)Peto, Sir Basil E. (Devon, Barnstaple)
Henderson. Lieut-Cot. Sir VivianPeto. G. (Somerset. Frome)TELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Henn, Sir Sydney H.Pownall, Sir AsshetonMr. F. G. Thomson and Captain.
Hennessy, Major Sir G. R. J.Ramsden, E.
Margesson.
NOES.
Adamson, Rt. Hon. W. (Fife, West)Hayday, ArthurI'onsonby, Arthur
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock)Hayes, John HenryPotts, John S.
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro')Hirst, G. H.Purceil, A. A.
Ammon, Charles GeorgeHirst, W. (Bradford, South)Ritson. J.
Baker, J. (Wolverhampton, Bllston)Hudson, J. H. (Huddersfield)Roberts, Rt. Hon. F. O.(W.Bromwich)
Barnes, AHutchison, Sir Robert (Montrose)Runciman, Hilda (Cornwall, St lves)
Batey, JosephJenkins. W. (Glamorgan, Neath)Scrymeour, E.
Beckett, John (Gateshead)John, William (Rhondda, West)Scurr, John
Bellamy, A.Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly)Shiels, Dr. Drummond
Benn, WedgwoodJones, W. N. (Carmarthen)Short. Alfred (wednesbury)
Bowerman. Rt. Hon. Charles W.Kennedy, T.Sinclair, Major Sir A (Caithness)
Brlant, FrankKirkwood, D.Sltch, Charles H.
Broad, F. A.Lawrence, SusanSmith, Rennie (Penlstone)
Brown, Ernest (Leith)Lawson, John JamesStamford, T. W.
Charleton. H. C.Lee, F.Stephen, Campbell
Clark, A. B.Lindley. F. W.Taylor, R. A.
Cluse, W. S.Longbottom, A. W.Thomas, Rt. Hon. James H. (Derby)
Cove, W. G.Lowth, T.Thorne, G. R. (Wolverhampton E. )
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities)Lunn, WilliamThurtle, Ernest
Duncan, C.MacDonald, Rt. Hon. J. R.(Aberavon)Vlant, S. P.
Dunnico, H.Macklnder, W.Watson, W. M. (Dunfermilne)
Graham, Rt. Hon. Wm. (Edln., Cent.)March, S.Wellock, Wilfred
Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne)Maxton, JamesWestwood, J.
Griffiths. T. (Monmouth, Pontypool)Mosley, Sir OswaldWilliams. T (York Don vallsy)
Groves, T.Oliver, George HaroldWilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Grundy, T. W.Paiin, John HenryWindsor, Walter
Hall, F. (York, W. R., Normanton)Paling, W.Wright, W.
Hamilton. Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland)Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan)
Hardle, George D.Pethick-Lawrence, F. W.TELLERS FOR THE NOES—
Mr. T. Henderson and Mr. Whlteley.