Oral Answers to Questions — German Reparation.

– in the House of Commons at on 4 March 1924.

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Photo of Mr William Ormsby-Gore Mr William Ormsby-Gore , Stafford

55.

asked the Chancellor of the exchequer what is the estimated value of the deliveries either in cash or kind by Germany to Great Britain, France, Belgium and Italy, respectively, on account of reparations and cost of military occupation since the date when France entered the Ruhr up to the end of 1923?

Photo of Mr Philip Snowden Mr Philip Snowden , Colne Valley

As the answer is a long one, and contains numerous figures, I will, with the hon. Member's permission, circulate it in the OFFICIAL REPOET.

Following is the answer:

1. No cash payments were made by the German Government on reparation account during 1923, beyond the payment of the six months Treasury Bills issued to the Belgian Government in respect of the last five-monthly payments for 1922, which fell due during 1923.

2. The deliveries in kind made, by the German Government to Great Britain, France, Belgium and Italy, respectively, which have been notified to the Reparation Commission during 1923, were as follows:

million gold marks.
Great Britain156
France14
Belgium5
Italy123
Total298
(say £14,900,000)

3. In addition, the German Government issued paper marks to the various Armies of Occupation on requisition to the following amounts:

million gold marks.
Great Britain16.0
France8.0
Belgium0.2
Total24.2
(say £1,210,000)
The issue of paper marks by the German Government to the French and Belgian Armies on requisition was suspended from the beginning of the Ruhr occupation until December, 1923.

4. No figures have been reported to the Reparation Commission or communicated to the British Government by the French and Belgian Governments as regards the value of the seizures and confiscations effected in the Rhineland and the Ruhr, and no sum has been brought to account by the Reparation Commission in respect of such seizures.

Photo of Mr Daniel Somerville Mr Daniel Somerville , Barrow-in-Furness

59.

asked the Chancellor of the exchequer whether, in view of the large sum obtained from Germany under the reparation levy and the fact that the rate of the levy has been reduced from 26 per cent. to 5 per cent., the Government has retained the right of reimposing any larger duty when opportunity offers; and, if not, what is the reason for this decision?

Photo of Mr Philip Snowden Mr Philip Snowden , Colne Valley

The answer to the first part of the question is in the affirmative; the agreement as regards the reduction of the levy has effect only until 15th April, 1924. The second part of the question does not therefore arise.

Photo of Hon. Esmond Harmsworth Hon. Esmond Harmsworth , Isle of Thanet

Does the right hon. Gentleman consider that the price of goods imported into this country from Germany will be reduced to the same amount as the reparation duty?

Photo of Mr Philip Snowden Mr Philip Snowden , Colne Valley

I must refer the hon. Member to an answer given last week to a similar question.

Photo of Mr Daniel Somerville Mr Daniel Somerville , Barrow-in-Furness

The right hon. Gentleman says the last consideration does not arise. Has the right hon. Gentleman then more consideration for the pockets of the Germans than of our own people?

Photo of Mr Arthur Samuel Mr Arthur Samuel , Farnham

62.

asked the Chancellor of the exchequer whether he will issue as a white paper the verbal or written diplomatic representations which led to the agreement to reduce the reparation levy from 26 per cent. to 5 per cent. as published in the Board of Trade Journal on 29th February?

Photo of Mr Philip Snowden Mr Philip Snowden , Colne Valley

The negotiations were conducted orally, and it is therefore impossible to issue as a white paper the representations which led to the conclusion of the agreement.

Photo of Mr Arthur Samuel Mr Arthur Samuel , Farnham

63.

further asked the Chancellor of the exchequer to which account all or part of the £18,000,000 received for reparation levy has been credited; and whether the credit has been treated as revenue, and for which year or years, or has the money been held in suspense account?

Photo of Mr Philip Snowden Mr Philip Snowden , Colne Valley

I would refer the hon. Member to the statements showing the amounts received during the years ending 31st March, 1922, and 31st March, 1923, respectively, and the application thereof which have been presented to Parliament (Command Papers 1664 and 1861). A similar statement as regards the year ending 31st March, 1924, will be presented to Parliament in due course. The credit is treated as revenue, under the heading of Miscellaneous Revenue, except in so far as it appears as Appropriations-in-Aid of Army Votes for the cost of Armies of Occupation.

Photo of Mr Arthur Samuel Mr Arthur Samuel , Farnham

Do I understand that this money has been and is to be treated as revenue, and does not this mean that the general body of taxpayers will henceforth subsidise the import merchants by the amount of the surrendered 21 per cent.?

Photo of Mr Philip Snowden Mr Philip Snowden , Colne Valley

The taxpayer will benefit, under the arrangement which we made last week, by the difference between the nothing that has been paid since September and the 5 per cent.

Photo of Mr John Whitley Mr John Whitley , Halifax

I understand that Thursday has been appointed for the discussion of this question.

Photo of Mr Arthur Samuel Mr Arthur Samuel , Farnham

64.

also asked the Chancellor of the exchequer whether, during the negotiations about reduction of Reparation Levy, any proposal was made by the British Government to the German authorities that reduction of Reparation Levy should be met by reduction of German Customs duties on British imports into Germany?

Photo of Mr Philip Snowden Mr Philip Snowden , Colne Valley

The answer is in the negative. As the hon. Member is aware, Germany is prohibited by Article 264 of the Treaty of Versailles from reducing Customs duties on British imports without granting identical reductions on the imports of the other Allies.

Photo of Mr Arthur Samuel Mr Arthur Samuel , Farnham

What objection would there have been to granting similar facilities to other Allies?

Photo of Mr Philip Snowden Mr Philip Snowden , Colne Valley

The hon. Member is evidently suffering from a mental illusion. He appears to be under the impression that this Reparation Act has something to do with Protection. It has nothing at all to do with Protection, and so long as I am responsible for its administration, it will not be used as an instrument of Protection.

Photo of Lord Eustace Percy Lord Eustace Percy , Hastings

In what period or at what date will the provisions of the Versailles Treaty, which the right hon. Gentleman mentioned, expire?

Photo of Mr Philip Snowden Mr Philip Snowden , Colne Valley

I could not at this moment state.

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